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Post by Psype »

jjbinx007 wrote: post #89
KingOfCoders wrote: post #53

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Same with the ads for Amazon videos on Amazon Prime. They are ads and I don't want ads. But they don't see it that way (don't get me started on the forced watching of texts on Blue Rays).

Ads on Amazon Prime are infuriating. And I can't help think how annoying it must be for people with disabilities. My other bugbear are the auto playing videos on Netflix and the use of massive spoilers in episode thumbnails. As a single consumer in a vast ocean I don't think my opinions will ever be listened to. Right now it's worth putting up with this crap as the benefits outweigh the cost but if it gets any worse…

Actually, ads on Prime videos are for their other shows, and skippable. I discovered nice shows that way. But I agree, we should have at least 2 easy options in settings:

- Never show ads for other shows - Always skip opening themes

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Post by rhino369 »

tartoran wrote: post #326
rhino369 wrote: post #324

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Nothing is really stopping you from paying for the content and pirating it to get the quality you want. But lets be honest, essentially all pirates just want the content for free.

I'd like to bypass the whole system (the middleman army) and give a donation directly to the creator if possible and I do sometimes when I'm awestruck with something. But that is not always possible and rare to matter in the grand scheme of things.

That doesn't really make sense in the context of movies and tv shows. The creators are thousands of people.

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Post by skulk »

rhino369 wrote: post #323
matheusmoreira wrote: post #222

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Yeah, piracy is almost always the better service. How the hell can a bunch of enthusiasts come up with a better service than multi-billion dollar companies? They seriously need to stop and rethink their industry. When I use my Netflix I get a horribly compressed "high definition" picture, annoying autoplaying ads for shows I don't care about and a constantly decreasing amount of content. Piracy offers the opposite of…

First, I dispute that piracy is really better. Amazon and netflix generally work easier than piracy. My, um friend, has radarr + usenet + plex, and its work pretty well 80%. But subtitles are often a problem. Unpacking/par checking sometimes takes forever. Sometimes the decoder in plex doesn't really work. Sometimes the movie has been DMCA'd off the use net servers. Private trackers involve sucking up to to 15 year o…

The reason piracy is perceived to be better is agency. With Netflix/whatever, you have zero agency if something you want isn't there, other than signing up for some other streaming service.

Even if it's hard to find something on public trackers with the right dubs/subtitles, it's rarely impossible for popular content. And if the subtitles are bad, you can, for example, download a different lower quality rip and pull the subtitles off that. The point is, in this system the user has control over the data they are consuming. This is infinitely preferable to some people than the chains of DRM.

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Post by birksherty »

Erlich_Bachman wrote: post #165
birksherty wrote: post #92

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I use xprivacy lua in android that does exactly this. It's not simple for general public though and it needs root.

Does it still work in recent Android versions though?

Depends if your rom supports edxposed properly which is for android 9 onwards.

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Post by baggachipz »

manigandham wrote: post #307
baggachipz wrote: post #248

Remember when this(1) was Dropbox? Remember how beloved it was because it did a thing and did it well, without complicating things or being actively user-hostile? Well, of course it's been fully MBA'd at this point, a true shame. (1) https://i.ibb.co/w6zcwYW/Screen-Shot-2021-01-15-at-10-49-22-...

Link to answer: https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Dropbox-more-popular-than-other... I remember reading this when it was first written. Ironically, Quora was also much simpler and better back then before turning into a spammy bloated mess.

The reason I did a screenshot was because I couldn't reliably link to this answer on Quora. What a dumpster fire that site's become too.

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Post by pengo »

My immediate thought is "why would anyone use Google or Facebook to log into other services?" I understand the desire to consolidate login credentials, but surely it's better to use a password manager than to give additional personal information to proven bad actors like Google and Facebook?

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Post by fencepost »

PascLeRasc wrote: post #312
Terretta wrote: post #224

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The best answer to this tactic is, “Nice Dropbox you have there. Shame if OneDrive were to happen to it.” The O365 integration with OneDrive is so seamless relative to other options, employees won’t even complain after an initial learning curve. In fact, many will start subscribing to O365 on iOS etc. and start having access to the same content synced across Windows, MacOS, iOS, Xbox, etc. At this point, with employe…

We use Onedrive at my work. It's a little annoying because OneDrive reads through your Word documents and tells you that you actually can't save that file here, because it has some external font or macro inside it. I like that Dropbox and Box don't look inside your files and I really hope Microsoft copies that feature soon.

I'm going to hazard a guess that this is a function of saving into a Sharepoint Library that appears as file/document storage. This would likely work if you were saving into a folder that's then synced via OneDrive.

The commentary that I've seen really has Sharepoint as the storage for anything that may be shared with other users (via file, Teams, whatever) and OneDrive as storage for files that are strictly for one user.

Caveat: not an expert on this

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Post by protomyth »

908B64B197 wrote: post #329
protomyth wrote: post #188

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Well, the tactic worked for Oracle, and I would assume some of those lawyers landed at other SV companies. Although, to be fair to Oracle, they didn't do dark pattern stuff when I used them.

But then look at how their "cloud" is doing. Is anyone anywhere in SV building new products on top of Oracle?

Oracle isn't an SV focused company. There is plenty of money in all those non-tech businesses to be a big winner.

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Post by novok »

ndiscussion wrote: post #316
novok wrote: post #309

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Really? Nowadays ive found it hard to get good 4k hdr downloads of things with seeders. Piracy seems to top out at 1080p at least it bittorrent land

A lot of it is probably caused by demographics - torrents are pretty popular in countries where 4k is not the norm and may not be accessible. FWIW I have 20/10 vision (twice as sharp as "perfect normal") and have never seen the appeal of retina screens or 4k. edit: Also the file sizes are vastly larger for 4k for an incremental benefit.

You should see a 1080p vs 4k HDR video of the same thing on an OLED and see the difference. I see the difference all the time. The mandolorian is a good one for that.

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Post by pedro2 »

marcedwards wrote: post #59
pedro2 wrote: post #46

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Yah, looked at it too. Still thinking if E2EE is worth losing search and OCR.

Which search would you lose? Their iOS app has search, and on macOS your can use Finder’s search. I assume there’d be ways on Android, Windows and Linux as well. Actually, I just checked and their Mac and web apps also have search.

Not by contents, I'd assume.
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