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Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by Exuma »

cbg0 wrote: post #308
stronglikedan wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Please cite me tweets/descriptions of where he incited anything. It's not gonna happen, because it didn't happen. I've asked everyone I know to cite the same thing, and no one has been able to. Of course, that won't stop the narrative, because truth has become irrelevant. EDIT: I find it amusing that even the people that have responded to you so far, still haven't actually cited anything yet.

You're either lazy or willfully ignorant, here's him showing support for the protest in some deleted tweets: https://media-cdn.factba.se/realdonaldtrump-twitter/13450881... https://media-cdn.factba.se/realdonaldtrump-twitter/13469549... https://media-cdn.factba.se/realdonaldtrump-twitter/13469004... Here's a video that he posted after the events at the capitol that was deleted where he keeps suggesting the election w…

Terrible examples, the 3rd one was after the event, the first one literally isn't inciting anything unless you have a sheer irrational hatred for trump and only see things through an incredibly one dimensional, emotional POV where he can't even scratch his chin without it upsetting you.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by ModernMech »

onehair wrote: post #286
bdamm wrote: post #161

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There's a difference between attacking the Capitol and attacking a Pizza Hut. There's also a difference between a protestor throwing a firework at a courthouse and taking tactical gear and weapons with a couple hundred buddies into a legislature. This equivalence between BLM and the mobbing of the Capitol is confusing to be because it's so obviously a false one.

There is no difference. Both groups are rioters. There is also plain hypocrisy in both camps, when one camp riots, the other camp pretends not to understand that there is festering anger from injustice. But every time, whenever one camps riots, they feel justified and righteous, and the opposing camp, feels enlightened as to and justified in retaliation. WOKE is bad. EXTREME privilege is bad. Finding common ground an…

Were both houses of Congress and the VP certifying the vote of the next PoTUS at the Pizza Hut? No? Then there's a big difference.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by one2know »

strathmeyer wrote: post #64
Exuma wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What part about "deleted" don't you understand?

Content moderation is a form of free speech. You don't get to tell others what to do just because of your wayward political views. They taught us this in elementary school.

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Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by dragontamer »

im3w1l wrote: post #301
dragontamer wrote: post #112

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Groups becoming more extreme when they exodus is fine and part of the calculus. The reason to take it off of Reddit is to prevent more followers from joining up with them. Stormfront is extreme and everyone knows about them. (Literally a white-nationalist website). But without a foothold on Reddit, they lack the ability to gain followers. When LUE was banned from GameFAQs decades ago, they just formed up their own gr…

What / who is LUE?

In the early 00s, the LUEsers were a subforum of GameFAQs. Their official name was "Life, the Universe, and Everything".

They got their notoriety by posting pornographic images all over the site, notably on Pokemon forums where children often came to discuss the game. It was a silly meme ("Mods are asleep, post Tub-girl" or whatever). But their memes were beginning to harm the site.

The LUEsers cried "free speech" and bemoaned the moderators for attacking their memes. Eventually, the admins shut down the LUE-subforum entirely (though with a "Grandfather clause", so that old LUEsers can still talk with each other, but newbies couldn't join their forum anymore).

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by x86_64Ubuntu »

Exuma wrote: post #6

What else is new, censorship is OK as long as only one side is doing it.

How are they being censored? They are perfectly fine to host their community elsewhere, and no one from the state has kicked in their door and hauled them off to a black site.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by BitwiseFool »

cultus wrote: post #127
justaman wrote: post #16

I'm generally against the idea of banning subreddits because they just move elsewhere. However, if this is going to be the official stance of Reddit admins, I encourage them to take a look at /r/sino and a few other communities that regularly violate the rules.

Deplatforming works. A few people follow to other sites, but most don't. It also becomes harder to attract new cultists if one is shut out of major services. https://gnet-research.org/2020/05/11/weighing-the-value-and-...

If Deplatforming works, I can't wait for the right to start deplatforming leftists!

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by gfodor »

andrewem wrote: post #232

You know what scares the shit out of me, to use your phrasing? The people on that site murdering me or overthrowing the government, so that they seize power and elections end or become irrelevant. “The free Internet” has value, but it’s not the only thing that has value. When it conflicts with other values, then there has to be a nuanced resolution.

I agree. Why would you think that I thought the free Internet is the only thing that has value? That's a nonsensical position. My point was that if a company shuts this down with an SSL cert hack of some kind, it may be just or even backed by law enforcement, but it exposes a vector for suppression by corporations of the Internet that I had not considered before and we need to understand the high order effects from that.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by throwaway47981 »

typon wrote: post #12

Irrelevant. Most of the original users of /r/theDonald migrated theDonald.win, which became one of the top websites in the US in terms of traffic. They're behind Cloudflare and constantly DDoSd these days it seems like it. Moreover, they've gotten threats from their ISP that they have to delete certain posts or be shut down. (which seems scary to me) Also, please don't judge me, I just have a morbid curiosity to see…

> one of the top websites in the US in terms of traffic

There's something odd going on with their traffic. I've been on the front page of Reddit and thedonald.win at the same time, and either virtually nobody on that site reads the articles or the upvotes counts are being massively inflated: the upvote to pageview ratio is waaaay lower on thedonald.win then I've experienced on Reddit and HN.

Re: Reddit bans subreddit group “r/DonaldTrump”

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Post by ddingus »

redisman wrote: post #158
ddingus wrote: post #79

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I do not even think it is morbid. 70 million people voted for Trump. Understanding them better is not a bad thing. Does not mean agreeing with them. And yes, same.

I don't know if those Donald sites are good for that. That is the small Q-anonish minority that was at the capitol. Most of the discussion is not exactly tethered to reality.

None of it is inclusive.

I personally am very liberal when it comes to speech.

And yes, all communities are good for understanding people better. Does not mean agreeing with them.

It does mean being able to know who one is dealing with. That matters to me.

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