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Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by pbrb »

tootie wrote: post #323
ronyeh wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think intermittent fasting is easier to implement for the average person. It's much easier to tell someone that they can eat as much as they want, but only between 6-8pm (one meal a day). It's difficult to tell someone you can eat 3 meals but no more than 1500 calories in total. Once I start eating, I don't want to stop (until I'm full). But the point at which I'm full is way beyond my calorie limit if I am eating…

Just anecdotal, but I did 12-8 fasting for a few months and it was not at all effective. I was starving half the day and didn't lose any weight at all. Mornings were tough and I was achy and cranky by 11am. 3 months in and my body never adjusted. I switched back to a normal meal schedule and felt better and didn't change weight up or down.

I've come to think this really depends on the person. I realized that I naturally intermittent fast, because it seems to work the best for me. Normally I eat my last meal of the day ~ 8pm, and nothing but coffee, tea, or water until 11am or 12pm the next day. The only time I eat something in the mornings is if I'm doing a workout or something active early in the day. Occasionally I'll feel hungry and eat something, but otherwise, I normally feel sluggish and slow if I eat breakfast. For my other meals, I actually eat a ton of food, around 2,500 calories on average.

On the flip side, I know multiple people who have tried the same and have your exact experience. Oddly enough, three of them had tried keto and had great results where I personally didn't. I know there's no real correlation there, just thought it was interesting. Try keto maybe?

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DoreenMichele wrote: post #129
Melting_Harps wrote: post #96

I've been doing a 16-20 hour fast since the lockdown and WFH, and to be honest I saw a significant decrease in my overall anxiety as a result. Anxiety I often offset with significant amounts of CBD (a $100/month expense). And while there are drawbacks, I can't bench press 215lbs anymore, the overall benefits have been pretty significant that I will keep doing it. My weight was pretty erratic, given the high stress lo…

Anxiety I often offset with significant amounts of CBD (a $100/month expense). Foods containing rosemary, sage and dill are some things I find helpful with anxiety. Also licorice with real licorice extract.

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Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by gvhst »

tootie wrote: post #323
ronyeh wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think intermittent fasting is easier to implement for the average person. It's much easier to tell someone that they can eat as much as they want, but only between 6-8pm (one meal a day). It's difficult to tell someone you can eat 3 meals but no more than 1500 calories in total. Once I start eating, I don't want to stop (until I'm full). But the point at which I'm full is way beyond my calorie limit if I am eating…

Just anecdotal, but I did 12-8 fasting for a few months and it was not at all effective. I was starving half the day and didn't lose any weight at all. Mornings were tough and I was achy and cranky by 11am. 3 months in and my body never adjusted. I switched back to a normal meal schedule and felt better and didn't change weight up or down.

If you start to restrict carbohydrate intake this helps with the low energy and irritability in my opinion. Been doing a 18-6 fasting since May (with some cheat days) and feel incredible.

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Post by amingilani »

alltakendamned wrote: post #236
d--b wrote: post #122

All the muslim world does 4-week intermittent fasting every year. That'd make it easy to test the asumption of the paper on a large scale population

They do, but my colleagues tell me that the food they eat when they break their fast is often heavier than usual, and they might eat more as well. More than one is gaining weight during Ramadan :)

It may be wise to test your colleagues assumption while we're at it as well :)

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Post by dqpb »

JacKTrocinskI wrote: post #173

I don’t think you should be looking at studies when it comes to how you eat, you should be focusing on how you feel, observing your own body and possibly talking to a doctor. I had a really big problem with acid reflux a while back after I stopped drinking alcohol. I visited many gastrologists and most of them offered little to no help, most only prescribed me drugs which was in my opinion not a solution. I finally m…

The anti-science chorus gets louder every day.

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by James_Henry »

Melting_Harps wrote: post #96

I've been doing a 16-20 hour fast since the lockdown and WFH, and to be honest I saw a significant decrease in my overall anxiety as a result. Anxiety I often offset with significant amounts of CBD (a $100/month expense). And while there are drawbacks, I can't bench press 215lbs anymore, the overall benefits have been pretty significant that I will keep doing it. My weight was pretty erratic, given the high stress lo…

Perhaps the weight loss improved sleep breathing. Have you ever had a sleep test before?

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by snicker7 »

st1x7 wrote: post #269
d--b wrote: post #122

All the muslim world does 4-week intermittent fasting every year. That'd make it easy to test the asumption of the paper on a large scale population

A very important difference is that you can't drink water during a Ramadan fast. Regardless of what you're doing with your food, deliberately dehydrating yourself is pretty much never justified.

"never justified"

A religious obligation won't count as justification?

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Post by jasonv »

cvhashim wrote: post #320
hutzlibu wrote: post #251

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One of the reasons, why it is a good idea to eat slowly.

Along those lines, nutritionist suggest to eat without distractions. Near impossible these days, I just had toast and coffee while scrolling through HN.

I count calories.

Eating while watching TV doesn't impact my eating choices.

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Post by ValentineC »

wikibob wrote: post #94
Cro_on wrote: post #81

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the fat is very useful in the palatability of coffee. a little coconut butter does the trick, and is also aligned with a low calorie intake

Y’all need to be learning to make better coffee. Your coffee should taste great without any milk much less sugar. Are you using freshly roasted beans, with a burr grinder, and grinding just before brewing? Use a $15 gram scale from Amazon and a $5 melita pour over paper filter holder and paper filter. 1 part of coffee to 15 to 18 parts water. So for a cup: 23 grams of coffee to 380 grams of water

> Are you using freshly roasted beans, with a burr grinder, and grinding just before brewing?

If bitterness is a concern, people should also look for beans that are medium roast (which tend to be more balanced) or lighter (more acidic/sour).

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