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Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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And possibly giving charity each year

tbh I think the practice of giving away flat-rate 2.5% of their wealth each year instead of 40-50% brackets would encourage more wealthy people to actually donate and not dodge taxes.

Many very wealthy people already donate to charity as a form of tax avoidance, by showing that they are benefitting others therefore they should be allowed to dodge tax.

The main problems with the argument that if wealthy people didn't get taxed then they would donate to charity more are 1) it's not proven to be true 2) where the money goes gets decided by the donor.

For some people letting the donor decide where their money goes sounds like a good idea, as it's there money. However donors do not take a holistic view of the needs of a society and are very influenced by what visible to them, their opinions & prejudices, etc... For example rich people donate billions to Harvard University, which already has an endowment of over $40 billion, which benefits almost nobody. That's arguably not a great use of charity donations where there are other more pressing needs, also in education, which would be much more efficient uses of that money.

The wealthy also often think that they are best placed to solve problems that they have zero experience with, based on being successful in a completely different field. Typically this leads to failure or inefficient and suboptimal results.

Governments are not perfect, nowhere close, but in terms of taking a holistic view of the needs of society and applying funds where needed, they are generally much better than assigning that function to a financial elite, especially if that government is a social democracy.

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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True. However, even if intermittent fasting is no more effective than calorie restriction, from a human behavior perspective, it seems to be an easier way for many people to achieve their calorie goals than just "eating less".

Yeah, this is why I prefer one mead a day (OMAD). It's a very large meal, 1600-2000 calories over a 2 hour period but I find it much easier to control my calorie intake this way. The only thing I regret since the pandemic is drinking coffee. I try to limit the amount of sugar and almond milk I add, but I feel like it's impacting my diet some how.

> I try to limit the amount of sugar and almond milk I add

You're not fasting.

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Scientific Reports is the dreg journal of Nature, and this clickbait title of "become a muslim and don't get cancer" with its extremely low sample size and no control group doesn't help to improve that journal's standing.

I thought that's exactly the point of Scientific Reports: to publish "reports" (i.e., not proper "papers") without caring about their impact or importance, as long as the science (however little of it there is) is done properly. i.e., you literally send them stuff that isn't good enough to be published in a proper journal. It's meant to be a dreg journal with low reputation; it's a feature, not a bug. The idea is to allow people to publish their work (e.g. to finish their PhD), but everyone knows that further investigation is needed before stuff should be called a proper finding. I think of it as the "workshop" version of a journal.

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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Anecdata: I have followed IF with a 1100 calorie deficit per day by only eating 1200 calories at dinner for 3 months. This translated to more than 1kg weight loss per week, pretty reliably. Overall I lost 17kg. I adjusted the TDEE and calorie values as needed to maintain the weight loss speed. The weight loss was extremely fast, but so was the rate at which I lost lean mass. This makes sense, as I didn't exercise muc…

1100 calorie deficit per day is too harsh and its no wonder your weight came back quickly. That large calorie deficit to your metabolim was equal to a famine, so as soon as you upped your calories again your metabolism put your surivial first and stored as much fat as it could.

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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The more you are used to eating in an average meal, the longer it takes to feel "full".

Also, it takes time for the chemical reactions in your body to tell you you are full, so if you eat a little bit, and stop for 15 min, you might very well find that you are full. However, once the taste buds are firing, it’s pretty hard to stop eating mid meal. One way is to take a little bit of food away from all the other food, eat it, and then force yourself to sit there while your blood sugar catches up to tell y…

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Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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post #122

All the muslim world does 4-week intermittent fasting every year. That'd make it easy to test the asumption of the paper on a large scale population

They do, but my colleagues tell me that the food they eat when they break their fast is often heavier than usual, and they might eat more as well. More than one is gaining weight during Ramadan :)

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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I don’t think you should be looking at studies when it comes to how you eat, you should be focusing on how you feel, observing your own body and possibly talking to a doctor. I had a really big problem with acid reflux a while back after I stopped drinking alcohol. I visited many gastrologists and most of them offered little to no help, most only prescribed me drugs which was in my opinion not a solution. I finally m…

What was causing the acid reflux that healed in that time?

Acid reflux burns your throat and sometimes even the stomach lining. Imagine taking a lit candle. You can wave your finger through the flame without issue. But now if you burn that finger, any heat, no matter how small is going to burn and cause an upset. Eating bland foods allows the stomach an easier time digesting, preventing reflux into the throat and allowing the burns to heal so that in the future when you get the occasional bit of reflux like most people, it won’t burn and you’ll carry on your day like normal. If I get particularly stressed and eat badly for example and don’t notice I’m burning up inside, I need to take 3 months of just bland foods, boring diet, Gaviscon and Nizatidine and then I’m back to normal again. It’s a fun ride!

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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I don’t think you should be looking at studies when it comes to how you eat, you should be focusing on how you feel, observing your own body and possibly talking to a doctor. I had a really big problem with acid reflux a while back after I stopped drinking alcohol. I visited many gastrologists and most of them offered little to no help, most only prescribed me drugs which was in my opinion not a solution. I finally m…

This is really bad advice. Its important to do actual science and not run on anecdotes.

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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The problem with this, for too many people, is that they've never felt "good". They don't have a point of reference they could use to guide them to a better lifestyle They only know the right-now and that's good enough for them. This is something I've seen with my friends and family who have never been in good shape. They don't know that it's possible to go up 3 flights of stairs 2-3 steps at a time at a brisk pace a…

> fart 24/7 The article is about intermittent faSting

Bravo! And because this is HN let me add: I love seeing light hearted responses like this that elicit a smile, on HN. Where the overall tone is normally very serious :)

Re: Intermittent fasting from dawn to sunset induces anticancer response

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post #238

I don’t think you should be looking at studies when it comes to how you eat, you should be focusing on how you feel, observing your own body and possibly talking to a doctor. I had a really big problem with acid reflux a while back after I stopped drinking alcohol. I visited many gastrologists and most of them offered little to no help, most only prescribed me drugs which was in my opinion not a solution. I finally m…

This is really bad advice. Its important to do actual science and not run on anecdotes.

This seems like an uncharitable take: OP seems to be arguing you should focus on what you can measure (even if it’s personal experience), and seek guidance when you need help.

The concrete advice at the end seems pretty supported by science. Drinking and smoking are definitively bad for you.

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