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YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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post #99

> this seems outrageous the same way DMCA'ing a Bittorrent client would be Why stop there? I can use my browser to illegally download content, so I guess we better issue a DMCA takedown that too. But who even needs a browser? Let's issue a takedown for the GNU Project while we're at it because I could use wget to do the same thing. In fact, I could write my own program to illegally download content, so we better just…

Or let's remove knives from all together from this world because someone is using the to kill other people.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

#332

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if collaboration on opensource projects (i.e. hosting, issues and their comments) was decentralized instead of relying on a central entity like Github? That would keep the developer base active and make DMCA takedowns ineffective.

keybase.io provide decentralized crypto solution, it's better to open source community to move on to such crypto soluion

I too thought of this, but keybase is bulky, software-wise. I'm not a fan of having to run its service just to access public git repos.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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post #4

Note that RIAA is making this takedown because the software CAN be used to download copyrighted music and videos, and it uses examples in the ~~README~~(unit tests, see correction[1]) as an example of that: > We also note that the source code prominently includes as sample uses of the source code the downloading of copies of our members’ copyrighted sound recordings and music videos, as noted in Exhibit A hereto. For…

It's pretty ridiculous. They might argue that a browser is a technological measure to protect a copyrighted work which youtube-dl circumvents since the DMCA is written so vaguely. Cases like this demonstrate why anti-circumvention litigation really has to go.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

#335

> We also note that the source code prominently includes as sample uses of the source code the downloading of copies of our members’ copyrighted sound recordings and music videos, as noted in Exhibit A hereto. For example, as shown on Exhibit A, the source code expressly suggests its use to copy and/or distribute the following copyrighted works owned by our member companies IMHO this wasn't the best move, I mean... t…

When the RIAA sued me for operating Aurous a few years ago they nailed me for exactly this. Using copyrighted album art and song names to advertise my FOSS meant to stream music from sources like YouTube didn't exactly win me any points in court.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

#336

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember books (with the code inside) being used as a workaround for cryptography export controls. I wonder if the same could apply here ( if this notice holds up to begin with), either as a book with code, or as a book with instructions in English language that are equivalent to what the code does.

This is a very underrated workaround. I had no idea this was used.

A book. Or any other medium of expression protected by 1st amendment, such as t-shirt [1], poetry [2], music [3]. And more broadly, any way of encoding a number in an artform via steganography [4].

[1] https://www.wired.com/2000/08/court-to-address-decss-t-shirt... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeCSS_haiku [3] https://www.gamedev.net/forums/topic/138581-decss-midi/ [4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steganography

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

#338
post #165
post #99

> this seems outrageous the same way DMCA'ing a Bittorrent client would be Why stop there? I can use my browser to illegally download content, so I guess we better issue a DMCA takedown that too. But who even needs a browser? Let's issue a takedown for the GNU Project while we're at it because I could use wget to do the same thing. In fact, I could write my own program to illegally download content, so we better just…

DMCA is a bad law, but you'd have a harder time arguing a general purpose web browser meets any of the following conditions: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/1201 (2)No person shall manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide, or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof, that— (A)is primarily designed or produced for the purpose of circumventing a techn…

Reading (A) and (B), I cannot help but notice that it doesn't matter whether the primary purpose of the circumvention is to infringe copyright. It is enough that the software/service is primarily about circumventing the "technological measure".

The technological measure itself doesn't even have to be primarily about preventing copyright infringement. It suffices that it effectively controls access to relevant works, even if it's not its primary purpose.

We could even argue that YouTube's restriction are primarily a means of getting people back to YouTube, with copyright enforcement being only a secondary concern. Sadly, this argument would be irrelevant with respect to (A) and (B).

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

#339
Seems like a fresh mirror here https://gitea.eponym.info/Mirrors/youtube-dl to fork and start it over somewhere else. Gitea is a great project. Now we need someone to fork and publish it over Tor or something. Decentralized solution would be a next step.

Diff between that mirror and the one from the web.archive.com looks good. I.e. no hidden/evil things inside. Looks safe to start over.

```

$ git log --oneline -3 48c5663c5 (HEAD -> master, origin/master, origin/HEAD) [afreecatv] Fix typo (#26970) https://gitea.eponym.info/Mirrors/youtube-dl

7d740e7dc [23video] Relax _VALID_URL (#26870) https://gitea.eponym.info/Mirrors/youtube-dl

4eda10499 [utils] Don't attempt to coerce JS strings to numbers in js_to_json (#26851) https://web.archive.org/web/20201018144703if_/https://github...

```

https://tor.stackexchange.com/questions/4855/is-it-possible-...

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

#340

Lesson learned: always use Creative Commons licensed data to demo your multimedia tools. Else people get the wrong idea. Some examples for youtube-dl might be: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqz-KE-bpKQ Big buck bunny * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRsGyueVLvQ Sintel * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhWc3b3KhnY Spring In fact, youtube actually allows you to filter by CC, so there's never a reason not to!

I think to take your lessons from the pretexts is like judging a war by its casus belli.
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