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YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

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Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

#261

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if collaboration on opensource projects (i.e. hosting, issues and their comments) was decentralized instead of relying on a central entity like Github? That would keep the developer base active and make DMCA takedowns ineffective.

In light of this DMCA, this seems like a site that needs to exist...but I don't know of one? Seems like as trivial a build as anything cryptographic actually

Yes, we do need this. I feel that the first step would be to move ytdl to a self hosted repository. But even this has the potential for takedowns.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

#262
post #4

Note that RIAA is making this takedown because the software CAN be used to download copyrighted music and videos, and it uses examples in the ~~README~~(unit tests, see correction[1]) as an example of that: > We also note that the source code prominently includes as sample uses of the source code the downloading of copies of our members’ copyrighted sound recordings and music videos, as noted in Exhibit A hereto. For…

Using a copyrighted music track as the example in the README is really stupid or just shows a total lack of respect for copyright.

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

#263

You can download the most recent version of the YouTube-DL code from Wayback Machine here: https://web.archive.org/web/20201018144703/https://github.co... Fuck the RIAA

I mostly see this video " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaW_jenozKcj ", which should not be copyrighted. Does anyone see the video links in the README claimed by RIAA?

Unfortunately, the claimed videos are in some tests in youtube_dl/extractor/youtube.py, e.g.

        # JS player signature function name containing $
        {
            'url': 'https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfWlot6h_JM',
            'info_dict': {
                'id': 'nfWlot6h_JM',
                'ext': 'm4a',
                'title': 'Taylor Swift - Shake It Off',
                'description': 'md5:307195cd21ff7fa352270fe884570ef0',
                'duration': 242,
                'uploader': 'TaylorSwiftVEVO',
                'uploader_id': 'TaylorSwiftVEVO',
                'upload_date': '20140818',
            },
            'params': {
                'youtube_include_dash_manifest': True,
                'format': '141/bestaudio[ext=m4a]',
            },
        },

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

#264
Assuming youtube-dl is dead and the web APIs become hopelessly obfuscated, how hard would it be to talk to youtube as if I were a samsung smart tv?

Perhaps the next iteration of this project can leverage google's own insatiable greed against them. Embedding youtube into every "smart" device on the face of the planet probably requires that google maintain a fairly consistent private API which all of these devices can communicate with. If someone were to reverse engineer one of these devices or just throw wireshark on the WLAN, it probably wouldn't take long to emulate the same approach...

What is stopping someone from using these types of internal interfaces instead of the public ones?

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

#265
post #139

While its good to get a backup of the source code, youtube-dl is one of those projects that quickly becomes useless as Google mixes stuff around within YouTube, which they like to do. Without an active developer base, the project will quickly become less and less effective, which is one of the big concerns IMO about this lawsuit.

What if collaboration on opensource projects (i.e. hosting, issues and their comments) was decentralized instead of relying on a central entity like Github? That would keep the developer base active and make DMCA takedowns ineffective.

keybase.io provide decentralized crypto solution, it's better to open source community to move on to such crypto soluion

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

#267

Is there an alternative to github that is resistant to denial of service attacks^1 like this? 1: At this time this is just a baseless accusation and there are no repercussions to the RIAA for blatant abuse. Why wouldn't they simply send a takedown for anything they don't like no matter whether it is legal or not?

IANAL, but DMCA takedowns do not have "no repercussions" for false claims. If the DMCA takedown was actually baseless, they would be opening themselves up to damage liabilities, as specified under 17 U.S. Code § 512 under section f[1]. This is different than YouTube copyright claims, which as far as I'm aware don't actually have any repercussions for false claims unless YouTube decides to take action[2], since copyright claims on YouTube are not DMCA takedown requests.

[1] https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/512

[2] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/08/youtubes-new-lawsuit-s...

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

#269
post #99

> this seems outrageous the same way DMCA'ing a Bittorrent client would be Why stop there? I can use my browser to illegally download content, so I guess we better issue a DMCA takedown that too. But who even needs a browser? Let's issue a takedown for the GNU Project while we're at it because I could use wget to do the same thing. In fact, I could write my own program to illegally download content, so we better just…

Please don't give them any ideas

Re: YouTube-dl has received a DMCA takedown from RIAA

#270

It is a bit of a tough question. How would I feel about someone borrowing a book from a library and then photocopying it to keep a local copy? If the intent was to re-distribute then I would not feel comfortable allowing it. However, if the proposed remedy was to ban personal ownership of photocopiers I would not even consider that a valid approach. But would I expect I could keep my own photocopied version instead o…

I don't think anybody really disagrees that redistribution is a copyright violation and the youtube-dl software doesn't provide any facilities for uploading or re-broadcasting content. This takedown is completely frivilous.
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