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Re: Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground

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Post by asdff »

netsharc wrote: post #155
asdff wrote: post #64

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Is throttle and steering by wire a safety feature? No. Its objectively worse than having the physical linkage, and manufacturers turn to it out of ease of design.

Throttle-by-wire helps with emissions and fuel consumption, technically making cars safer for all of us pollution-breathing humans: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_throttle_control

Not seeing where in the article it states this explicitly. How does it work to help emissions? Compensation for drivers who have a lead foot?

Re: Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground

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Post by novok »

tatersolid wrote: post #304
novok wrote: post #229

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Most are. GM OnStar systems & Tesla I know for sure are designed in a way that a malicious hack of HQ computers + research into car firmware could lead to a push that would kill potentially millions of people simultaneously. If I really dived into the others, I wouldn't be surprised if ford, VW, toyota and others had similar system design issues. We are just lucky we live in a world where even 'hackers' don't go that…

> We are just lucky we live in a world where even 'hackers' don't go that low. Unfortunately they do go that low. There have been multiple murders committed by ransomware gangs attacking European and US hospitals in recent months. Example: https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/09/patie...

That's more spray and pray damage then a specific hack on hospitals.

Re: Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground

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Post by andrewaylett »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #260
PeterisP wrote: post #245

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Very few women are of the expected size (5' 9" tall) aimed to represent the average male; most women automatically falls into the "too short / other-wise-outside-of-the-norm" as far as car safety testing was concerned until recently - AFAIK cars made since 2012 should be also tested on smaller, female-sized dummies which also created an incentive to alter how they are built.

Well if that's it then making a list of "too short, too tall, a woman" is double-counting. Also if you take it as exactly 5'9" then airbags aren't suitable for men either. What you need to do is examine the range it's designed for. It's not the average height that matters, it's what percent of men/women fall inside that range. There might be a significant difference in that percent, or there might not be.

There is no such thing as an "average" person: https://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2016/01/16/when-us-air-...

Re: Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground

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Post by EmilioMartinez »

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #230
oconnor663 wrote: post #132

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"This baby can go zero to sixty in three seconds flat."

For anyone wondering, assuming linear acceleration that's roughly 1 g. In a rear-facing seat, that's 1 g eyeballs-out, which should still be perfectly safe for the child, but possibly not for the cleanliness of the seat.

Maybe if the acceleration is smooth enough, but the sudden appearance of a new g yanking your head to your chest might be dangerous for a baby.

Re: Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground

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Post by flyingfences »

asdff wrote: post #331
netsharc wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Throttle-by-wire helps with emissions and fuel consumption, technically making cars safer for all of us pollution-breathing humans: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_throttle_control

Not seeing where in the article it states this explicitly. How does it work to help emissions? Compensation for drivers who have a lead foot?

With a traditional, mechanical throttle linkage, there's a momentary spike in emissions caused by a too-rich or too-lean combustion condition when you suddenly lift off or step on the throttle because the engine computer and fuel injection system can't compensate quickly enough. Throttle-by-wire allows the manufacturers to smooth the throttle position changes. Even when you snap your foot off the pedal, the throttle valve is now made to close over some significant fraction of a second, slowly and gradually enough for the fuel mixture control to keep pace.

Re: Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground

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Post by [deleted] »

asdff wrote: post #330
klyrs wrote: post #120

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Sure, I can agree with the weight savings. Having hit a pothole recently, I've been driving with a bit of a lean... this could be extremely easy to fix in software, and I suspect that automatic recalibration would be pretty simple to implement. As it stands, I'm waiting for nice weather on a weekend in the Fall, and I'll probably end up at the mechanic. And economy of scale doesn't just apply to LHD/RHD, but the part…

If your car is leaning bad from a pothole the last thing you'd want to do is artificially correct yourself out of thinking you need to get your wheels aligned.

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Re: Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground

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Post by nrmitchi »

SilasX wrote: post #328
nrmitchi wrote: post #107

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Someone who has both a child, and a Ferrari.

I hate to sound inflammatory, but just to get everyone on the same page, and because I was wondering the same thing: I thought Ferraris were show-off cars for the rich, and if you were rich enough to have one, and had a child, then you would (sensibly) own a separate, functional car when you actually intended to drive that child around (or employ some car/chauffeur service or whatever). Edit: I googled Ferraris with…

I agree with you, and honestly I should have been more clear here.

I also think there are different definitions of "kid friendly".

Using a Ferrari to take your 3-month-old toddler to a doctors appointment? That seems like a waste.

Taking your 7 year old kid on a drive in the "fun car"? If I had a Ferrari, and a kid, this would 100% be happening.

Re: Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground

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Post by SilasX »

nrmitchi wrote: post #337
SilasX wrote: post #328

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I hate to sound inflammatory, but just to get everyone on the same page, and because I was wondering the same thing: I thought Ferraris were show-off cars for the rich, and if you were rich enough to have one, and had a child, then you would (sensibly) own a separate, functional car when you actually intended to drive that child around (or employ some car/chauffeur service or whatever). Edit: I googled Ferraris with…

I agree with you, and honestly I should have been more clear here. I also think there are different definitions of "kid friendly". Using a Ferrari to take your 3-month-old toddler to a doctors appointment? That seems like a waste. Taking your 7 year old kid on a drive in the "fun car"? If I had a Ferrari, and a kid, this would 100% be happening.

But you just need booster seats for 7 y/os, which simply lie on top of the OEM seat without risking this kind of incident, right?

Re: Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground

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Post by nrmitchi »

SilasX wrote: post #338
nrmitchi wrote: post #337

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you, and honestly I should have been more clear here. I also think there are different definitions of "kid friendly". Using a Ferrari to take your 3-month-old toddler to a doctors appointment? That seems like a waste. Taking your 7 year old kid on a drive in the "fun car"? If I had a Ferrari, and a kid, this would 100% be happening.

But you just need booster seats for 7 y/os, which simply lie on top of the OEM seat without risking this kind of incident, right?

I have 0 experience installing a booster seat in a Ferrari, but frankly I would expect any form of child seat to be installable without risking this kind of incident.

I don't have the knowledge to get into any specifics about this. The point is just that there are plenty of valid use cases for having a child seat in a Ferrari.

Re: Ferrari is bricked during upgrade due to no mobile reception while underground

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Post by jethro_tell »

saalweachter wrote: post #319
jethro_tell wrote: post #297

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They also only drive forwards which helps a lot. When I was a kid on the farm, all the transmissions in the grain trucks were modified so you could only go forward. Too many accidents driving backwards with bad sight lines. Its a strange thing at first but you get used to always parking with a forward exit.

And less of a modification on an older farm -- backing up horses was hard enough that many older farms will already be designed for one-way traffic, with all eg barns allowing you to pull through.

huh, never thought of that before but that makes complete sense. All the farms I ever worked on were newer mostly created out of irrigation projects from the new deal. All mechanical at that point.
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