Farmers are hackers. There is a lot of technology on farms. You have tractor's, irrigation systems, sensors, camera's, sometimes even drones.
Nebraska farmers vote overwhelmingly for Right to Repair
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Re: Nebraska farmers vote overwhelmingly for Right to Repair
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Microsoft products get supported basically forever. But they're not cool/trendy.
Excuse me if I don't believe you. The Win 7 VM we (sqlitebrowser.org) use for our Windows nightly builds stopped receiving Windows Updates a few months ago. Microsoft seems to have decided to not honour the (legit) serial from MSDN. With no warning or explanation.
That's still a decade, though - far better than the three years for a Chromebook or Pixel
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The problem is even though we can do this, the average user doesn't. They get the unsupported message and they then throw the laptop in the bin and buy the same thing again. All electronics makers should be required by law to supply security updates and spare parts for devices for at least 10 years after the point of sale (not after the release date). Another thing I think would have a big impact is requiring all con…
Why they should electronic makers be "required" to do supply security updates and spare parts for 10 years? To begin with, 10 years is somewhat arbitrary. Why not 12? 15? 20? These tractors could be serviceable for 50 years or more? So why not 50? Not every consumer wants or cares about this, but every consumer would be forced to pay for it. How would this even be enforced? Who will be the judge of what updates were…
> To begin with, 10 years is somewhat arbitrary. Why not 12? 15? 20?
I think the idea is great, filling your proposal with Xs ans Ys isn't. This is not code, it's a suggestion :)
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> All electronics makers should be required by law to supply security updates and spare parts for devices for at least 10 years after the point of sale (not after the release date). Let's start by requiring then that chip vendors sell and support their chips for at least that long? To stick to "10 years since introduction to market" which is a much easier requirement: 2009 was the year of AMD Phenom II (EOL 2012) and…
Regulation gets interesting too. What devices does this apply to? Does it apply to smart tvs, thermostats, printers, anything with software? (which will soon be everything). Components? Can I import a device? What vetting / certification process will be applied? Who does that? What happens when devices are manufactured by subsidiaries which get folded after 3 years? What if "updates" are provided that don't actually…
Security updates need to be supplied for anything that can connect to a network. Vulnerabilities are anything that allows remote read or write access to the device without the user's explicit consent. Companies need to open source everything needed for supplying security updates before going bankrupt (perhaps setting up a suitable insurance to make sure there is money for work needed to do so). You can't import products that don't meet these requirements, just like you can't import products that don't meet other safety requirements. If the provided updates don't actually fix the problem the manufacturer is liable for all damages. You can't sell things that depend on external servers for normal operation without also maintaining those servers (and enabling community replacement in case of bankruptcy).
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I don't think this is true, Apple has definitely been raising prices significantly in the last few years even on the cheapest models. Unless you're counting still being able to buy a generation or two behind for cheaper as "current generation" Edit: this article has a nice chart https://www.gsmarena.com/price_history_of_apples_iphones-new... There's a couple of blips with the 5c and the SE but for the most part even…
The iPhone 11 at release was $699, $50 more than the person paid for the 6s 4 years ago. They got the model with 16gb and a 4.7” screen. The 11 starts at 64gb with a 6.1” screen. Is this raising prices significantly?
Assuming 2% inflation for 4 years, the inflation adjusted price of the 6S is $702. The 11 is actually cheaper.
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You can get really good support from Lineage OS for years to come. Been running it on all my android devices for years. The flagship models like Pixel usually have the best ongoing support.
Are there any flagship models that still have phone jack and an sdcard? Supposedly there's so many Android phones but all are removing things. You can get phones with these, but then their support doesn't last long and generally no one cares about maintaining a replacement OS like Lineage OS. My ideal phone would have: - size that does fit in a hand - phone jack - sdcard - hardware keyboard - ir blaster - stereo spea…
fxtec Pro 1 hits a most of those, exceptions are no IR blaster, battery life (depends on what you call good) and apparently it's a pain to register with Verizon (mentioning since I don't know who your provider is).
I have a pre-order, but right now I'd give it a few months while they sort out production, they seem to be hitting a lot of issues with quality of components which means orders are delayed.
Re: Nebraska farmers vote overwhelmingly for Right to Repair
#337What many people may not realize is just how long-lived a lot of farm equipment is. There will be tractors out there still working that are 75 years old and just keep getting repaired. Obviously the manufacturers would like to sell those farmers tractors more often than that or, in the very least, generate a revenue stream from existing hardware and honestly that's what I see a lot of computing in vehicles as being:…
The search for an ongoing revenue stream is one of the most destructive forces in the tech industry. It leads to some very customer-hostile experiences.
Especially in agriculture custom firmware is getting more and more prevalent. I think for many people wanting to be productive products like iCrap and consorts are generally not worth it.
I think John Deere tractors were especially restrictive for any form of unauthorized rapairs. Restricting access for selected partners is a very customer hostile behavior. It is like printer ink all over again.
Still there are high technically hurdles that can indeed be compared with the smartphone market that still supplies crappy software on otherwise decent phones.
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Great, thank you. As an aside, I love listening to people with accents explain things, so the video was doubly enjoyable! Edit some time later: And then perhaps I'll go down an hours-long rabbit hole watching all his videos and learning a ton about machining...
>I love listening to people with accents explain things Are there people without accents that explain things? Because that would be a video I want to see.
I suppose by "without accent" you mean "with General American accent"? German or French can be spoken without accent, but English doesn't have one universally agreed "standard accent". What's without accent to the American is just an American accent to everyone else.
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That happened to my Chromebook too, so I just installed GalliumOS on it, and it's been getting updates regularly for over a year now.
The problem is even though we can do this, the average user doesn't. They get the unsupported message and they then throw the laptop in the bin and buy the same thing again. All electronics makers should be required by law to supply security updates and spare parts for devices for at least 10 years after the point of sale (not after the release date). Another thing I think would have a big impact is requiring all con…
> All electronics makers should be required by law to supply security updates and spare parts for devices
I don't think that is feasible and could ruin manufacturers. But in the case they end the support, they should provide access for users to install other sofware solutions and remove protective barriers.
Re: Nebraska farmers vote overwhelmingly for Right to Repair
#340Why does John Deere not simply offer the best service and repair facility in an open market in order to win the revenue stream? This was always a land grab for easy profits.