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Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

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Post by qrendel »

lmm wrote: post #319
qrendel wrote: post #277

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Maybe we could instead go after the people who want to make careers out of destroying teenage lives with trumped-up child pornography charges? They seem like the real enemy in this stuff.

Are you going to be the representative or congressman who proposes a bill to decriminalise child porn? Or the president who signs an executive order to not prosecute child porn cases? How do you think that would play in the media and with the voters?

I'm aware of that feedback loop, but the comments I see here seem to view that kind of Draconian treatment of people, ones who are obviously not child pornographers or dangerous individuals, as a problem. So there seems to be at least a subset of voters who recognize the issue and think it's absurd.

This is partly a problem of common knowledge[1] - where lots of people are thinking the laws are absurd, but no one wants to be the first to say it openly, because they can't know for certain that anyone else is thinking the same thing. Getting a conversation going about how ridiculous some of these prosecutions for "child porn" are would be the first step towards a sane discussion of what those kinds of child protection laws should actually be, when they should be applied and when they shouldn't, etc, so that it stops being a third rail for lawmakers.

Might also point out that the recently passed "International Megan's Law" actually places a permanent mark on these people's passports labeling them as sex offenders.[2] These cases of a dad being permanently marked as a sex offender just for letting his daughter borrow his phone, or a 19 yro getting a naked pic from his 17 yro girlfriend, only end up being counterproductive to protecting the real victims. When you hear of someone labeled as a "sex offender" now, does it serve as a reliable warning? Or do you just wonder if the guy was unlucky enough to get caught pissing in public?

[1] http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2410

[2] http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/02/obama_signs_int...

Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

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Post by HeavyStorm »

daveidol wrote: post #213
ambicapter wrote: post #120

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Yes, but you know snapchat pictures aren't really deleted right? 'Temporary pictures' is a proposition that doesn't actually exist in the digital realm, and certainly not when a VC-backed company is proposing it.

Yes, they really are. Read the "Message Deletion and Retention" section: https://www.snapchat.com/privacy

Instead, hold volume-down + power in your Android device.

Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

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Post by HeavyStorm »

tychuz wrote: post #315
daveidol wrote: post #213

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Yes, they really are. Read the "Message Deletion and Retention" section: https://www.snapchat.com/privacy

Oh come on, every phone can take a screenshot. Once you send a picture out - it's forever on the internet. That nude picture will end up in 4chan, 9gag, other teen image posting websites, then a dozen creepy guys will save them and share their collection...

Agree. Oh, and it will be also be used to generate other nudes - people create fake accounts, send the nudes as if they were theirs, and incite the other person to send nudes of their own.

Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

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Post by HeavyStorm »

tomtoise wrote: post #305
tbabb wrote: post #298

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> IRC wasn't recorded Except by anyone in the room with logging enabled.

Much easier to plausibly deny it was you in IRC, with Snapchat etc, it's much harder to deny that you sent the photograph of yourself from your mobile device.

So the point is that it isn't graphic, but text only. Nothing to do with recording. Which is a big point... Snapchat can erase images, it doesn't matter. People can still capture them in other ways.

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Post by test1235 »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #55
searine wrote: post #17

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Because facebook is full of companies and old people. Snapchat is not about snapchat, it is about having a space to themselves.

And ten years from now, the kids are going to want to have a space for themselves, after all the companies and old people are on Snapchat.

it already started happening - we're all paying attention to it and I bet more than half the people here are trying to work out how to make money from it.

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Post by someguy1233 »

viraptor wrote: post #67

So what they're saying is that there are people uploading 60GB data of faces of the same person every month? How does snapchat not have the best face recognition algorithm by now? Even facebook doesn't have so many samples.

Well they kind-of do.

If you have ever used snapchat, they have these strange face-tracking filters, for example one of the most known is the "barf rainbows", where if it detects you've opened your mouth, it aligns rainbows coming out of it, and enlarges your eyes.

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Post by auscompgeek »

mapmap wrote: post #227
cyphar wrote: post #176

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> Stop pretending you know what you're talking about. Calm down. > Do you know how much money is saved by not keeping those pictures? Okay, fine. Even if the pictures aren't stored indefinitely (I'd assume they'd do batch deletions at the end of the day or something when latency isn't as important), all of the photos are encrypted with the same symmetric key which can be found in any Snapchat binary. Which means that…

Why aren't they encrypting end-to-end with private keys on the devices?

An idea that a couple of friends (can't remember if cyphar was one of them) and I came up with: piggyback some actual crypto on top of Snapchat, using steganography to initially transmit public keys. Would be interesting to see this happen.

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Post by daveheq »

qrendel wrote: post #277
jsmeaton wrote: post #236

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Not boys? Boys send nudes too, and often request them. Isn't that soliciting child porn? We need to be feeding kids (boys and girls) way more information and hoping they don't mess up too badly.

Maybe we could instead go after the people who want to make careers out of destroying teenage lives with trumped-up child pornography charges? They seem like the real enemy in this stuff.

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. If you tell your daughter not or send nudes of herself to her friends, they might not end up on the internet.

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Post by robwilliams »

melted wrote: post #182
Analemma_ wrote: post #161

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I assume you and you friends don't work for Microsoft, since Snapchat is the highest-profile absentee from Windows Phone :P

Contrary to popular belief Microsoft doesn't really care what phone you use. Nor does it care if you use an iPad or Mac at home. I'd wager most Microsoft employees use Android, with iOS as close second and WP as distant third. A lot less distant than in the rest of the world, but third nevertheless.

MS employee here. Most of the older employees use Windows phones and most younger employees use iPhones. I was honestly surprised how many people own Windows phones.

And no, bosses/execs don't care what phone you have.

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Post by MicroBerto »

JabavuAdams wrote: post #256
MicroBerto wrote: post #245

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Never regretted being an athlete, and it's never too late to start.

I was a provincially-ranked tennis player as a teenager. But yeah, definitely regret not going further with that while I was young. Had a stroke last year. It was pretty hard realizing that after a certain point, no you really can't be an elite athlete.

Sorry to hear that.

It's not about being elite. I know a ton of guys in the bodybuilding community, and they basically say "if I don't think I'm going to WIN, I'm not even going to start."

So now it's been three years since they've stepped on the stage. That's a ton of wasted time for a "bodybuilder".

I don't get that way of thinking.

When I compete in sports, I compete to have fun, make friends, and compete to NOT GET LAST PLACE. This isn't my passion, it's my fun man-outlet. Let the maniacs have first place.

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