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My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

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"Parents don’t understand. It’s about being there in the moment."

In WHAT moment? That moment when someone snapchats a snapchat for the sake of snapchatting?

Hey, I have a 14yo son who texts like a maniac and never takes his earbuds out of his ears. He has hundreds of thousands of views on his G+ profile, which is the thing him and his friends are all over. But lately they've moved to Facebook because they follow their favorite Bands' pages.

It's so confusing.

If our parents wanted to know what was going on in our lives, they quietly picked up the other phone on the land-line in the house and eavesdropped.

Now, we have to snoop and lurk on our kids' social profiles, or try to sneak a peak at their texts when their phones buzz.

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"Parents don’t understand. It’s about being there in the moment." In WHAT moment? That moment when someone snapchats a snapchat for the sake of snapchatting? Hey, I have a 14yo son who texts like a maniac and never takes his earbuds out of his ears. He has hundreds of thousands of views on his G+ profile, which is the thing him and his friends are all over. But lately they've moved to Facebook because they follow the…

I don't think the knowing-what-your–kids-are-up-to part is that much different, at least for me. If my parents had wanted to snoop on my social life in high school, they would've had to figure out how to dial up BBSs, which they didn't really have any understanding of. Granted, Snapchat has a much bigger userbase than BBSs did.

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I'm in Seattle, so maybe I'm biased -- but many of my friends and I from 20s to 30s all enjoy Snapchat. The moments are real, time-limited, don't require a reply, aren't faked by filters, and aren't a popularity contest. That makes it a huge improvement over every other social network we use. It's by far the easiest way to share a picture or moment with friends -- a photo is worth 1000 words and the location/time/vel…

Maybe I'm living in a bubble, but since when has SMS been a painful experience for messaging? If I'm texting whoever, whenever, I can send a snap and I have the bonus of not having to take a picture for every text I send. Plus in the days of modern texting, I use Messages from my computer which makes life even more pleasant as at work I'm able to keep in touch with friends/family without even glancing at my phone. I…

I don't use Snapchat a lot but the idea is that you can share a moment with the people you have on it without expecting an answer because it's showed if they checked it or not.

An sms/mms appear in the form of a chat and you are like compelled to answer, at least to tell them that you got it.

Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

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post #251

"Parents don’t understand. It’s about being there in the moment." In WHAT moment? That moment when someone snapchats a snapchat for the sake of snapchatting? Hey, I have a 14yo son who texts like a maniac and never takes his earbuds out of his ears. He has hundreds of thousands of views on his G+ profile, which is the thing him and his friends are all over. But lately they've moved to Facebook because they follow the…

"being there in the moment" = dopamine squirts

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Youth is wasted on the young. I've loved video games since I was about 7. I've made a good living off of video games. In my thirties, I never once thought "Man, I wish I'd spent more time playing video games in my twenties." Now, as I turn 40, I wonder how different my life would have been if I'd spent more time doing other things, instead of playing video games. The process of aging is impossible to convey fully, bu…

Never regretted being an athlete, and it's never too late to start.

I was a provincially-ranked tennis player as a teenager. But yeah, definitely regret not going further with that while I was young. Had a stroke last year. It was pretty hard realizing that after a certain point, no you really can't be an elite athlete.

Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

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The whole appeal of Snapchat is that nothing is permanent, so you don't have to really think about what you're sending.

It's almost as if Snapchat is a direct reaction to the permanency of social media. Once schools/parents started teaching kids to be careful online, they moved to a service where it isn't as much of an issue.

How does anyone know for sure that all of that traffic (or at least the meta data related to the traffic) is not prepped for data mining on a per-user basis ?

There would be obvious commercial advantage in doing this, just for starters.

Data mining services like facebook gives you a solid picture of the interests and connections that the target person broadcasts publicaly. This is useful information, and it is exploited by any number of parties ... and people are (hopefully) aware of that.

Data mining snapchat gives a deeper picture of a person's interests and connections, as they are broadcast whilst that person believes that this information is entirely private.

Aggregating data from both sources (which would be almost trivial), would provide a very detailed view of the target. Much more than the sum of each dataset alone.

And it matters not whether the owners of Snapchat are completely and utterly above-board with everything .... there is the question of who owns and operates the network that all this info travels over.

Bottom line is that all of that "ephemeral" data that is going through snapchat is no more private than facebook, or youtube, or HAM radio, or telephone calls, or email, or SMS, or pretty much anything electronic.

There is no real privacy with this, but its easy to provide the illusion of privacy.

Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

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I am the very proud father of a 14yo girl whom I have turned into an teenaged IT guru over the years. She learned to read at age 3 using the very well done "Cat In The Hat" desktop program, and since then I have turned her on to everything from Gmail at age 6 to Ableton at 12. I've decided that Snapchat is where it ends for me/us last year...she needs something to be hers and her friends alone, without "Dad" poking i…

My 7 year old sends me strings of poop emojis.

My wife does this to me :(

Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

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Yes, they really are. Read the "Message Deletion and Retention" section: https://www.snapchat.com/privacy

As a thought experiment, if you were the head of ISIS or the Russian ambassador in Washington DC, would you or would you not expect your snaps to be "really deleted" aka actually private? Honest question, not trolling.

Snapchat won't protect you from a state-level adversary, nor does it need to. It may, however, protect you from a disgruntled ex leaking your photos, or from an employer snooping on your private life. It may even protect you from yourself when you come across an old post you really didn't need to see.

Snapchat attempts to use technology to enforce the social contract of "please don't repeat everything I say to everyone you know, and don't hoard it indefinitely", which is established protocol for, say, actual in-person conversations. By implementing a casual form of endpoint security, a non-sophisticated actor at the receiving end may not break this social contract without repercussions, since nominally, only the official client can get the payload; the official client deletes the payload upon receipt, and if the official client detects that a screenshot was taken or the message was saved, it notifies the sender. That's the feature, not off-the-record messaging.

Re: My Little Sister Taught Me How to “Snapchat Like the Teens”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, they really are. Read the "Message Deletion and Retention" section: https://www.snapchat.com/privacy

As a thought experiment, if you were the head of ISIS or the Russian ambassador in Washington DC, would you or would you not expect your snaps to be "really deleted" aka actually private? Honest question, not trolling.

I would expect that if I were personally targeted by ie NSA, they could intercept the snaps in transit, and those copies would not be deleted. Short of that though, I certainly do believe that snaps are indeed completely deleted after they are viewed (unless the recipient makes a screenshot) because the risk to Snapchat of lying about that far, far outweighs any potential reward.
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