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Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Accountability, that's the liability everyone seems to have forgotten in our LLM-driven era. You can close your eyes as much you want during your sessions with Claude or whatever, at the end of the day, only a human can be held accountable.

Not too hopeful here as we see the major labs continuously break rules and are not held accountable for anything. Accountability in general is on a major decline, in case no one has noticed.

That's because they're massively wealthy and have teams of lawyers, not because of AI

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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skills/advertising_and_sales.md skills/novel_distribution.md skills/unique_and_interesting.md Naive to think you can't reduce these to instructions.

You can get some interesting new ideas out of it but it takes some work. Especially when a prompt is stateless. It need to know about it's previous novel ideas but also not be polluted/directed by them. Im not sure what it would take to get it to continuously churn out novel ideas.

So.. a while ago I was experimenting with using random wikipedia pages and then asking the model to think about concepts, trends or connections between a few pages..

Then I would ask it the actual brain storming problem I had.

In practice it worked pretty well to get ideas that were not the default ideas that the models will come up with.

Now though, you can also seed with anything really and the agents can do the researching. The research itself will probably push the solutions into novel spaces.

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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> Silly and pointless criticism. Why do the semantics of the word intelligence matter? It matters because, we're still sorting out what intelligence means for an AI agent. As you pointed out, language evolves over time. The question remains whether or not attributing intelligence to the current iteration of models is correct. This is not settled and I don't see why it's wrong to bring it up.

So let's say we make up a new word, machilligence to serve as a parallel term to intelligence but strictly for machines. How is the world different in that case vs. if we call it intelligence? Or I guess to put it another way, if we want to coin a new term for the intelligence-esque thing that AI has, but the key differentiator is that it's an AI thing and not a human thing, then what linguistic value does the new wo…

I think "intelligence" carries baggage. When most people hear it, they're thinking of the constellation of things: judgment, consistency, moral reasoning, the ability to decide something and stick with it. An intelligent person has an internal model of the world, values they apply consistently, and the capacity to learn from mistakes in a meaningful way. LLMs don't do any of that. They perform statistical pattern matching on text at an extraordinary scale. They're shockingly good at mimicking the surface features of intelligent behavior. I think the overuse of the word intelligence is something to criticise as grandma is not across the tech details.

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Correct me if I'm wrong but a human will be able to cut through the noise with quirky advertising, new/novel distribution methods, etc. Most of the bottleneck in business isn't building the things or sourcing, it's mostly advertising/sales. These specifically require doing something unique or interesting. Sure, maybe LLMs can help with fulfillment or operations, but distribution still remains the hard part.

Or a way to automate scamming old people.

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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You can get some interesting new ideas out of it but it takes some work. Especially when a prompt is stateless. It need to know about it's previous novel ideas but also not be polluted/directed by them. Im not sure what it would take to get it to continuously churn out novel ideas.

So.. a while ago I was experimenting with using random wikipedia pages and then asking the model to think about concepts, trends or connections between a few pages.. Then I would ask it the actual brain storming problem I had. In practice it worked pretty well to get ideas that were not the default ideas that the models will come up with. Now though, you can also seed with anything really and the agents can do the re…

There's another way to ask your problem to something that's thought about concepts, trends and connections.

That said, interesting approach. I wonder if the quality of the sample makes a big impact. Does it help if the articles are entirely disparate, or related? Does it help if the articles are related or unrelated to the problem?

Re: Pion, an agent designed to run any company autonomously

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Interesting to see these experiments. This is early but imagine in few years there will be companies mostly run by agents with a light overview from a human operator. What then happens to scaling of the bussinesses? I would assume, just like today anyone can vibe code an app, there will be vibecoded bussinesses. Maybe its time to start building infrastructure for these bussinesses instead, its a non existent market y…

After seeing a crazy amount of non-programmers, sometimes with 10 years of experience, basically turning off their brains and offloading most their thinking to some LLM and turning their days into "please check this product and tell me what I should do next", I don't see why not.

I've seen: designers, performance marketers, data scientists, SEO experts, product managers, engineering managers, CRM expert, all using it for pretty much every single individual part of their job. I don't have to even mention programmers, of course.

Once in a while the most egregious ones get caught. I've seen so far a product manager, three data scientists, a CRM person and several developers getting fired for doing absolutely nothing but showing up, firing Claude with a few integrations to a dozen tools and prompting "do the work".

Might sound harsh, but after the last few years, I really don't see why an LLM wouldn't do a better job by itself compared to 80% of employees of tech companies, honestly.

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