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Volkswagen started blocking GrapheneOS users

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gib444 wrote: post #291
virgilp wrote: post #276

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How are all these "broken and dangerous"? In my car (Volvo) they work rather well. Perhaps sign detection sometimes misses signs, but so do I so I can't fault it. The others though, I rank them all somewhere between "genuinely useful" and "absolutely awesome"

N.B. I didn't write /all/ were "broken and dangerous" But some personal examples: - Auto high beam assist saw a car at a side junction, turned off high beam, then turned back on, mimicking a 'flash' to let the car out, which they acted on by pulling out. I had to brake hard to avoid them. I was doing 60 mph - I was on the motorway and a stranded vehicle was on the hard shoulder and the driver decided to exit from the…

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moooo99 wrote: post #70

It is amazing how Volkswagen keeps messing up. I am currently in the market for a new car, an EV specifically. Volkswagen brands were at the top of my list for many reasons, among them the excellent driving assist implementation. I got an offer from a dealer three weeks ago and was going to order the car, then the API for the community integration got turned off. I decided to hold back and see what comes from it. Now…

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moooo99 wrote: post #70

It is amazing how Volkswagen keeps messing up. I am currently in the market for a new car, an EV specifically. Volkswagen brands were at the top of my list for many reasons, among them the excellent driving assist implementation. I got an offer from a dealer three weeks ago and was going to order the car, then the API for the community integration got turned off. I decided to hold back and see what comes from it. Now…

Let me get this straight, you are considering buying an EV, or any modern car for that sake, but you care about privacy (by using GrapheneOS).

You are driving the biggest trojan horse of spyware ever created. You voluntarily drive around with that thing spying on you AND me. I hate parking at a parking lot now because every car and its 300 cameras are spying on me, putting my face, car and appearance in a database used to track everyone around you.

I genuinely don't know how people like you sleep at night knowing you're raping everyone around you by enabling mass privacy violations. Grow a spine.

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Post by frollogaston »

virgilp wrote: post #276
gib444 wrote: post #253

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> constantly driving your attention away from the road Absolutely agree! After a few minutes you realise you forgot to disable one of the 'features' and then get distracted trying to do that. Lane keep assist is broken and dangerous Auto high beam assist is broken and dangerous Auto cruise control is broken and dangerous Collision detection-avoidance is broken and dangerous (thinks you're going to crash quite often i…

How are all these "broken and dangerous"? In my car (Volvo) they work rather well. Perhaps sign detection sometimes misses signs, but so do I so I can't fault it. The others though, I rank them all somewhere between "genuinely useful" and "absolutely awesome"

The auto high beam blinds other drivers when it fails to detect them

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Post by technothrasher »

embedding-shape wrote: post #310
mnw21cam wrote: post #308

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My 18 year old A3 reads about 1mph higher than the true speed at motorway speeds. It's pretty spot-on, which is very unusual.

Ah, mine is quite precisely 10 years younger, and also European if that matters, sounds like yours might be Mexican if it's in the US unless I'm mistaken. I guess there is some tuning process at the end of fabrication/production, maybe just "wild luck" either way.

I believe the only Audi car made in Mexico is the Q5. My US model 2025 A3, btw, is dead on (+/- 1 mph).

Re: Volkswagen started blocking GrapheneOS users

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RickS wrote: post #93
AJRF wrote: post #23

I don't know how large a group who will do this is - but if the UK bans VPNs I can see Graphene having a very large target on its back. - Buy Pixel, Get Graphene - Use FDroid, don't sign up for Google Play, download Tor browser - Censorship resistant access to the internet without handing over your ID. Pixel being a fairly popular phone in the UK is the interesting bit - if you had to buy some niche device I couldn't…

I regret not signing up for Discord when they first introduced facial recognition and middle schoolers were trivially spoofing their ID checks with meme pics. There's really something to be said for greedily signing up for most things and trying to get grandfathered before the zipcuffs tighten. IRL, though, fuck this. Home depot added flock cams and broad facial recognition, grocery store installed turnstiles, haven'…

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Post by frollogaston »

gonzalohm wrote: post #56
iAMkenough wrote: post #46

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Think of the children that will bypass all of the "protections" recently adopted by the UK.

How would they even do that? A VPN is just a remote machine. Anything can be a VPN

They can make it impractical for most people by repeatedly banning VPNs by IP address. Users have to pay upfront to figure out if their chosen VPN even works, then it could still break later.

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Post by WarOnPrivacy »

isoprophlex wrote: post #139
abyssin wrote: post #99

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2022 Dacia Sandero is a great car. Analog buttons, good build quality, well designed. And it’s cheap.

Possibly the single ugliest recent car though

> Possibly the single ugliest recent car though

I checked it out. It seems like the 100th indistinguishable car design in our sea of nearly identical cars.

This to say that the "est" part of ugliest confuses me a little.

Re: Volkswagen started blocking GrapheneOS users

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Post by frollogaston »

doublerabbit wrote: post #241
applfanboysbgon wrote: post #123

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In 2006, before Android, the iPhone, or app store existed? Were you even alive 20 years ago?

Yes, I am 37. What about you? I was hosting an IRCd on my 33.2k modem at night using Hybrid-IRCd before that ratbox. I recall XFree86 before Xorg and running Linux on my 486dx running kernel 2.x https://distrowatch.com/table-mobile.php?distribution=icepac... My first mobile phone was a Siemens m35i, eventually followed by a Sony Ericsson k500. Where the Nokia 3310 phone couls receive animated icons via SMS messages t…

Every semi-smart phone I used before the iPhone existed either had no app ecosystem, or it had a super walled-off one that nobody complained about because it was probably unused.

Which is kinda where I'm at with cars. Idk what this stuff about VW supporting a mobile OS means, cause my car can't really talk to any phone unless you count Bluetooth audio.

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