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So this is the other side of banning American models for non-Americans? And how exactly do they plan on enforcing all of this? Great Firewall of America? This is a complete joke. The malicious clowns behind this should be removed from power and prevented from ever holding any position of power in any form of governance system.
So this is the other side of banning American models for non-Americans? And how exactly do they plan on enforcing all of this? Great Firewall of America? This is a complete joke. The malicious clowns behind this should be removed from power and prevented from ever holding any position of power in any form of governance system.
They're probably going to ban GPU exports to China. Which will of course accelerate the development of their own GPUs. More products for us.
The US is slowly becoming more like China. From talks of nationalizing companies to make US state owned entities to banning foreign competition. It's just so strange how you become the thing you fear.
> It's just so strange how you become the thing you fear.
I use DeepSeek every day (via VSCode Insiders and Zed Editor). It's very affordable and, while it's slightly behind Claude (not sure how far behind Fable), it suits my working style well. I'm not using unsupervised multi-agent workflows and don't need a library of skills files - I'm writing most of the code and leaning on AI to help with mundane tasks - like; - generating types for APIs - generating boilerplate based…
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I can load US dollars I hand over to the CVS attendant and load it on my AliPay (Alibaba account). I can then pay my Alibaba server bills with Alipay.
Is there an intermediary? The cash doesn’t go directly from CVS to AliPay, right?
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Chinese have a wider outlook on it. Politically they believe AI belongs to humanity, which is why they are basically the only ones left publishing research in the open. That's probably part of their socialist nature. But also a financial one. They believe that models are commodities, that you can swap one for the other and that the only thing that matters are the applications built upon them. So they want to make sur…
> It's quite impressive how the latest years I have found more and more to empathize with China than many of the western counterparts. I'm not sure that this is because China is suddenly a great place or political system so much as a reflection of many western nations speed running to autocracy in the name of manliness.
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OpenAI and Anthropic also rose to fame from stolen IP from the US. https://www.npr.org/2025/09/05/nx-s1-5529404/anthropic-settl...
I assume you're not confused about the fact that DeepSeek winning would be against US self-interest, and the thriving of OpenAI + Anthropic domestically and globally is very much in the national interest of the US. Even if both groups did exactly the same thing, it would be irrational for the US to not bias itself in favor of its own businesses.
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This is a commonly-repeated trope. Full of all the emotional zeal of AI Doomerism, but no accompanying evidence.
I don't mind in the slightest that AI labs have used any public data they could get their hands on to train their models. This includes books, the internet, or other AI models. It's all the same to me. I find it hypocritical when AI labs complain about their models being used for training.
I also find it hypocritical when the copyright industry fails to put any effort into prosecuting these big techs for their so called infringements.
It's like the industry is a shadow of its former self. The way the copyright industry used to operate, one would think these big tech CEOs would wake up with SWAT pointing guns at them while their electronics are seized, and then they'd end up in court and get hit with something ridiculous like a quadrillion dollar fine.
It actually pisses me off that it's not happening. Not because I care about copyright, but because it's extremely disrespectful towards all the previous victims of the copyright industry.
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Is there an intermediary? The cash doesn’t go directly from CVS to AliPay, right?
CVS also accepts alipay as a payment method, so they must have some kind of direct partnership. I don't see why they'd need an intermediary, although maybe they take the cash and just credit alipay some balance etc.
Thanks (to all!).
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OpenAI and Anthropic also rose to fame from stolen IP from the US. https://www.npr.org/2025/09/05/nx-s1-5529404/anthropic-settl...
I assume you're not confused about the fact that DeepSeek winning would be against US self-interest, and the thriving of OpenAI + Anthropic domestically and globally is very much in the national interest of the US. Even if both groups did exactly the same thing, it would be irrational for the US to not bias itself in favor of its own businesses.