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Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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I think Reddit falls under this category. > If your website will block me out because I used a privacy friendly email, I want nothing to do with your website.

Reddit doesn't even require an email address to make an account. You can just leave the email field blank.

That was switched off recently. Now it demands an email.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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I ran into this with an NVMO mobile provider. They did not like my personal email domains (assorted .net and .org) so I nagged their customer support until they manually added it. Their marketing team happily emails my personal domains once added. Some day this will probably cause a problem but my goal is to eventually get rid of my cell phone either way.

I ran into this with an NVMO mobile provider. As of about six months ago, AT&T's web site would not accept email addresses without a three-character TLD. I had to get a customer service person on the phone to manually change my address.

MVNO fwiw. Mobile virtual network operator.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Spammers know to just cut out the +whatever. It's a simple regex to keep those from even getting into a database.

The + has no special meaning in the standards, and thus removing it will just result in invalid addresses in many cases…

They can check if it's Gmail though.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Doesn't matter. Most email services[1] use it the way Gmail does and spam is a numbers game. Losing a few valid addresses is worth correlating all those other addresses for most spammers. Standards only matter to nerds like us. [1] https://proton.me/blog/what-is-email-alias#5

Except plus address users are also less likely to be receptive to spam, so it's probably better to just not bother

Spam has never been about how "receptive" the recipient is.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Yes but not always applicable unfortunately… e.g. the other day I was in Italy, I needed to park on the publicly available parking which was paid to the municipality. No other parking available anywhere near in 30 mins walking distance. (paid or free) I had to download a 3rd party app that asked me to register. This app isn’t by the Italian government, it’s affiliated though. So in that situation, I want nothing to d…

I think in most countries the only way to challenge this kind of thing is to park illegally and then go to court and claim it was impossible for you to park legally. Which is a hard process, on purpose.

In the States, they tow your car to a yard and hold it ransom until you fork out a $1K or so (depends on the state/municipality), with accrued daily surcharges. And, good luck finding the yard. They also only take cash or debit so that you cannot run a chargeback later on. I'd rather just pay a $300 ticket, don't tow my car.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Pro tip for doing something like this without apple. Buy or get a cheap domain name. Create a subdomain on it and have it catch and forward all messages to you when sent to that sub. For example: nytimes@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail anything-else@mailsub.example.com -> jono@gmail You dont even need to materialize aliases at all.

This lacks the easy control over blocking the “aliases” you’re done with. The real pro tip is to use this domain with something like addy.io (paid or self-hosted) where you can either pre-create the aliases or have them dynamically created for you as they become used for the first time - and having control over each of them so you can block it when you want.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Having a handful of companies that can contact you has created a land of monopoly hyperscalers. It's so hard to build anything big and durable because they've created these steep gradients.

"They" didn't create them. They laid out the bait - free APIs to do all sorts of stuff, and lazy-ass programmers took the bait hook line and sinker without thinking through the consequences of everyone moving their sites into "the cloud." Or didn't care. Lot of people need to look in the mirror on this one - from programmers to execs.

I wouldn’t blame programmers. Free APIs and services were a great way to get bootstrapped, and nobody really understood why they existed: an extended period of low interest rates after the 2007/2008 crisis. The bait-and-switch wasn’t a conspiracy, it was a natural consequence of the unusual financial environment (which itself was a kick-the-can “solution” to cover up the damage caused by the GFC).

Almost none of us were deeply familiar with how rates could affect the availability and pricing of services, and the implications for infrastructure. Many of us understand this now, but too late—it’s unlikely that we see rates that low again in our lifetimes.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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I think in most countries the only way to challenge this kind of thing is to park illegally and then go to court and claim it was impossible for you to park legally. Which is a hard process, on purpose.

In the States, they tow your car to a yard and hold it ransom until you fork out a $1K or so (depends on the state/municipality), with accrued daily surcharges. And, good luck finding the yard. They also only take cash or debit so that you cannot run a chargeback later on. I'd rather just pay a $300 ticket, don't tow my car.

Can you sue them for not telling you where your car is and then to recover all fees resulting from you not knowing where your car is?

I suspect you could but you'd be risking a car - better try it with the clunkiest clunker you can find.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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Hide My Email is fundamentally broken in two major ways: 1. Services those emails are used with cannot unilaterally send email to them. They must pre-register how they will send email to them, which breaks services with third-party relationships such as online retail with payment processors or shipping companies. Users don't like not receiving shipping notifications, and users don't like not seeing invoices or at wor…

I've received emails to my HME address from third parties. Bought something from Shop A, got the email confirmation from them, later got the shipping notification from Courier B, all to the same HME address.

Re: Apple is about to make Hide My Email useless

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In my city in Northern California our downtown uses an app for parking now. I don’t use it so it’s still an option, but you have to goto a kiosk, enter your license plate number, and pay with card. It’s made the downtown more of a ghost town (admittedly it was already dying) and the boomers with cash just don’t go. The younger 20somethings all complain “boomers are too stupid to use an app” and have no concern for pr…

> The younger 20somethings all complain “boomers are too stupid to use an app” and have no concern for privacy apparently. They were literally trained not to value their privacy. The first generation of ipad kids now have driver's licenses.

My wife changed carriers and for a day had lost her phone number. She was texting our son (who is in middle school) and his response was “prove it’s you”.

So digital native kids have learned to not trust people on the internet, don’t use your real name in an alias, etc.

“They were trained not to value privacy” is not what they are being taught in school.

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