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If Claude Fable stops helping you, you'll never know

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Re: If Claude Fable stops helping you, you'll never know

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I think we agree? What moat? You answered yourself: "capital intensive" But, history says the supercomputer of today will fit in your pocket in a few years. They've bought up all the RAM and GPUs, which pushes the capital requirements upward for everyone else. But, they can't corner the market forever, there are too many competing interests. AMD and Intel keep making new GPUs and APUs. The memory makers can't just se…

> I think we agree? That is such a crazy way to start a response to someone trying to argue with you. I should try this. That's amazing. I know you didn't mean it as a trick, at least I'm pretty sure you meant it sincerely, but I'm just struck by the power of it to defuse and redirect the conversation. And this was a very low-grade example, but I could imagine this being useful in much more heated contexts.

Yeah, more valuable than the comments I came to read (even if those are interesting too!)

Re: If Claude Fable stops helping you, you'll never know

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Because "you don't need to be able to self-host it" is a constraint, I'm arguing that you DO need to be able to self host it, not that difficult. Every thing being rented out instead of available for ownership is nothing but neofeudalism, which we are rapidly spiraling into. > pushing on it can ruin the entire enterprise. I'm supposed to feel sorry for the trillion dollar corporations that hoovered up all of human kn…

> Let the "enterprise" be ruined. It'll be for the better. Maybe my choice of words was a bit confusing, I actually had in mind the "enterprise" of making sure people have access to capable and uncensored models. As far as the enterprises you dislike, I don't use them, I do use hosted models but not theirs. > I'm supposed to feel sorry for the trillion dollar corporations that hoovered up all of human knowledge, for…

Ah, that makes sense now thank you. I had assumed by enterprise you were referring to OpenAI/Anthropic/etc.

Re: If Claude Fable stops helping you, you'll never know

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What moat? There are multiple companies providing pareto-optimal frontier models, and it takes O(10) people to build one of these things. The rest is capital intensive, and the price will approach the cost of production over time. Thinking this is a profitable endeavor is equivalent to claiming coal plants have good margins because boilers are expensive.

I think we agree? What moat? You answered yourself: "capital intensive" But, history says the supercomputer of today will fit in your pocket in a few years. They've bought up all the RAM and GPUs, which pushes the capital requirements upward for everyone else. But, they can't corner the market forever, there are too many competing interests. AMD and Intel keep making new GPUs and APUs. The memory makers can't just se…

"But, history says the supercomputer of today will fit in your pocket in a few years."

hmm nooo ??, physic says otherwise

Re: If Claude Fable stops helping you, you'll never know

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think we agree? What moat? You answered yourself: "capital intensive" But, history says the supercomputer of today will fit in your pocket in a few years. They've bought up all the RAM and GPUs, which pushes the capital requirements upward for everyone else. But, they can't corner the market forever, there are too many competing interests. AMD and Intel keep making new GPUs and APUs. The memory makers can't just se…

They’ve bought up all the RAM and GPUs… Is there an endgame where even this is considered overly complex? Instead of starving the competition by buying up all the compute, why not just buy up… all the money!? Hoover up as much investment capital as possible so that your competitors can’t get funding.

or just "buy" your competition like big tech did

every major tech company literally have deal,ownership,alliance etc

they literally not gonna gobble up entirely to trigger anti-trust case

Re: If Claude Fable stops helping you, you'll never know

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What is stopping the US government from stepping in and nationalizing these companies?

They've already talked about taking a stake - https://www.reuters.com/legal/transactional/us-officials-eye...

Trump took a 10% stake in Intel.

These models are getting very close to that line.

Re: If Claude Fable stops helping you, you'll never know

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There is a possibility this may not end at simply nerfing the model. The idea of manipulating the behavior of a model depending on the prompt given to it can extend to 1. Detecting if employees from competing companies are using it and sabatoge their work, even not LLM-training related 2. Direct users to outcomes that would justify higher compute spend. Deliberately coding a project to 95% completion but designed to…

Anthropic: were commiting to being ad free. Also Anthropic: if you use our models in any way that might negatively impact our revenue we'll sabotage you. Can I pick the ads please?

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Re: If Claude Fable stops helping you, you'll never know

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DeepSeek 4 Pro is performing agentic SWE tasks for me quite well. It can't do everything Opus can do, but if OpenAI and Anthropic disappeared tomorrow, I'd figure out ways to make it work with harness improvements and other optimizations. Anthropic can stretch the moat all they want, but in the department of trust, they put a final nail in their coffin today. Anthropic is pure evil at this point.

'evil' lol. Every single corporation you deal with is evil then. it's greed. and almost every large model provider is guilty of it. China is all open source right now. cool! gee i wonder what would happen if they ever actually achieved SOTA? They would clamp down on that so fast Dadio's dradel would spin

China isnt "all open source" they still keep their top models out of the public view. Its easy to "open source" models when they're so far behind very few will pay for them.

Open source in quotes because they are not open source and not even close to open source.

Re: If Claude Fable stops helping you, you'll never know

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I guess an uncharitable way to read this might be “the ML engineers/scientists want to automate all of the jobs except their own.”

The charitable read is that their restrictions for "safety" (i.e. what's separating Fable from Mythos) makes this inevitable. If you could just make your own Mythos it would circumvent the protection. Which kinda just highlights how weird this situation is.

"Safety" is just marketing spin for their coming attempt at monetization based on exclusivity.
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