It's a SaaS, when in the history of SaaS has it ever been a good idea to trust that the company won't ruin the product under you?
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#12I tried today and it gave cybersecurity error on base64 implementation. It is so nerfed....
At least it gave an error! This whole silent nerfing idea is so wrong
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#13I guess an uncharitable way to read this might be “the ML engineers/scientists want to automate all of the jobs except their own.”
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#14“When you realize the goal is the path, the pursuit itself becomes the prize. Stones in the road are not obstacles blocking your path; they are the path”
now I understand distillation is much more important thank I thought
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#15"Claude can now be silently nerfed. Anthropic has decided it won't tell users when this happens." W T F!!
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#16Disillusioned CEOs convincing themselves they have the mandate and right to define morality for everyone else. They get to decide what is right, wrong, permissible, or dangerous from the top, in the name of "safety". This is corporate nannying.
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#17It's a SaaS, when in the history of SaaS has it ever been a good idea to trust that the company won't ruin the product under you?
I think there's a pretty big difference here. It's not like Github prevents you from building a Github competitor. Or Linear is preventing you from using it to build a Linear competitor.
This is more akin to Windows somehow preventing you from building a new OS.
Or worse yet, sabotaging vs preventing.
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#18It's a SaaS, when in the history of SaaS has it ever been a good idea to trust that the company won't ruin the product under you?
I think there's a pretty big difference here. It's not like Github prevents you from building a Github competitor. Or Linear is preventing you from using it to build a Linear competitor. This is more akin to Windows somehow preventing you from building a new OS. Or worse yet, sabotaging vs preventing.
A surprising number of companies do include “you may not use the service we provide you to compete with us” in their terms of service.
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After a quick search the best example is Atlassian. It would (apparently, IANAL) break terms to plan a JIRA competitor using JIRA.
> Customer must not (and must not permit anyone else to): [...] (d) use the Products to develop a similar or competing product or service
Also Salesforce. Their competitors are explicitly disallowed from using any of their services for any reason.
> SFDC’s direct competitors are prohibited from accessing the Services, except with SFDC’s prior written consent.
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#19I don't understand how businesses could trust cloud LLMs going forward with this ongoing "safety" paranoia. Building dependence on them doesn't feel like a sane strategic decision for users.
It's not paranoia. Cyber attacks have gone up massively in the past few months even with the weaker models we had so far. And Claude Mythos 5 scores even higher than the unreleased Mythos Preview on ExploitBench. If you made this capability publicly available you would see another acceleration of cyber attacks.
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#20It is absolutely fine to distill the IP of everyone else, but you'd be violating the TOS to distill ours :)
It's utterly bonkers. Hopefully the model weights get leaked. Then we can claim it's public domain or, at the very least, distill it and then release it for free.