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Mozilla to UK regulators: VPNs are essential privacy and security tools

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Re: Mozilla to UK regulators: VPNs are essential privacy and security tools

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I don't think 1984 is naive and there's maybe a certain naivete in comparing the UK protecting kids from porn to the 1984 type stuff - torture chambers for thought criminals and the like.

Tommy R was thrown feces upon him in a jail cell for 8 months (along with noise torture and losing 15% of his body weight out of food privation). Torture chambers fully exist for thought criminals in UK.

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Re: Mozilla to UK regulators: VPNs are essential privacy and security tools

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I don’t know what to think about China. I think I was brainwashed already. I spend too much time on Reddit where it seems they like China a lot and want to become China. (Is this AI generated sentiment?) Though none of them seems to be moving to China now that I think about it. Look, it’s extremely hard to remain some kind of objective nowadays on the internet. I no longer know what is true and what is false. Truth h…

> I don’t know what to think about China. I think I was brainwashed already. Try visiting if you get the chance and see for yourself how things are. Depending on your workplace you may also have many Chinese coworkers who would be glad to tell you what life is like there. Definitely don’t listen to Reddit, but also don’t listen to the countless other forums trying to convince you it’s a North Korea like dystopia.

I want an honest assessment on public criticism of the government in china.

Can i have a comedy tv show where i satirize government actions I don't like?

Can you point me to one?

Re: Mozilla to UK regulators: VPNs are essential privacy and security tools

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post #79

1984 was meant to be a warning, not the UK’s digital infrastructure roadmap

1984 is extremely naive. It assumes that people will fight for their freedom and insane measures will be needed to keep them in check. So foolishly optimistic… people can’t wait to give freedom away if only they get a stable job and housing in exchange. Or if it hits these other guys they don’t like at the moment. It’s all much, much less dramatic than Orwell. It is an ordinary, everyday erosion of your rights until…

I always thought in the 1984 story people get into trouble despite themselves. The main character is not trying to overthrow the state at all. He wants the girl, and writes down his thoughts, making it easy to accuse him.

Nothing about what he thinks about strikes me as odd or unique in the least. He has simple and obvious reasons for doubting the state ... and only for a little while.

Re: Mozilla to UK regulators: VPNs are essential privacy and security tools

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Tommy R was thrown feces upon him in a jail cell for 8 months (along with noise torture and losing 15% of his body weight out of food privation). Torture chambers fully exist for thought criminals in UK.

Never heard of this individual. After a bit of googling I could not find any sources that support these claims. Can you please point me to them? (Text, not video) I found no source for: * feces thrown on him (for 8 months) * “noise torture” * “torture chambers for thought criminals”

Also he is not a "thought criminal". He has convictions convictions for crimes such as assault, threats, harassment, fraud and contempt of court.

Re: Mozilla to UK regulators: VPNs are essential privacy and security tools

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You say that like it's a bad thing. Not everyone thinks so.

Some people think it'd be reasonable to have every car reporting it's GPS position and speed to the government to stop people speeding, or to have facial recognition cameras on ever corner to catch criminals, or to make everyone carry an ID card that people can demand to see. On the face of it living in a police state is safe, and secure, and actually increases your freedom to just live your life without pain. And if…

I guess some people living in countries with high crime rates are just tired of it, therefore they are just looking for any solution. In safer countries where you don't have potential criminals on every corner the perspective is different. I wouldn't want 24/7 surveillance in Poland or Czechia but I would consider them being lesser evil in big US or UK cities.

Re: Mozilla to UK regulators: VPNs are essential privacy and security tools

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Some people think it'd be reasonable to have every car reporting it's GPS position and speed to the government to stop people speeding, or to have facial recognition cameras on ever corner to catch criminals, or to make everyone carry an ID card that people can demand to see. On the face of it living in a police state is safe, and secure, and actually increases your freedom to just live your life without pain. And if…

I guess some people living in countries with high crime rates are just tired of it, therefore they are just looking for any solution. In safer countries where you don't have potential criminals on every corner the perspective is different. I wouldn't want 24/7 surveillance in Poland or Czechia but I would consider them being lesser evil in big US or UK cities.

Which UK cities have high crime rates? The murder rate in the UK is much lower than in the US and slightly higher than in Poland, been trending down for a long time and pretty typical for a developed country.

Re: Mozilla to UK regulators: VPNs are essential privacy and security tools

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post #298

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You say that like it's a bad thing. Not everyone thinks so.

You're right, some people are misguided and think age verification can be done in a way that isn't the death of privacy and anonymity online.

Which is true. Irma/Yivi [1] in NL/BE proves that to be the case. But it always works with a trusted third party. The client, after confirming auth with the human, generates a unique key for the platform. The platform asks the trusted third party to verify this key, and then a scope is defined. For example: 'is this person 18+?' the response to the platform is then 'Yes' or 'No'.

[1] https://yivi.app

Re: Mozilla to UK regulators: VPNs are essential privacy and security tools

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post #309

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Don't we all hate social media? From that standpoint, anything that makes it hard to use or come with direct negative consequences is good.

What do you mean by "social media"? We all hate Facebook, but do we all hate Hacker News? Mastodon? A Discord or IRC community for an online game? I'm all for age restrictions for certain kinds of social media, but age verification is a system of surveillance and the death of online privacy.

So, the actual laws are targeting things more specifically than just "social media". Some are talking about intentionally addictive content algorithms, or personalized algorithms. Others are naming specific named companies.

Don't confuse social media with social networks. Social media is media - they select what you watch, like a TV channel, but personalized for each user. You might get a narrow choice from several options they selected. Social networks are just tools for communication.

I used the word "algorithm" so I'm going to preemptively point out that it means something in relation to social media that's more specific than what it means in computer science.

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