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Post by brimwats »

refurb wrote: post #287
bluefirebrand wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I had a professor in college who was big on entrepreneurship. So he formed an organization, got others involved, went to Washington to lobby his rep. His rep said “let’s do it”, and sat him down with her staff to write a bill. That bill was brought to the floor for a vote and passed. Until you’ve done that, dont complain the system doesn’t work This is a sign of the system not working. A well connected professor, w…

Well connected? A professor at a small college from a town of 15,000? Nope. She had been working on entrepreneurship for a while so had met her reps years ago. No money involved. Hell, not even from a very big state.

This seems like fantastic fantasy or fanfic, but unless you have a citation or some actual names, I think I'll put it down to fiction

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Post by khriss »

granzymes wrote: post #10

Political violence is not acceptable in a democracy. Full stop, no "but". That's all that needs to be said on this thread.

You'd think so, but increasingly a larger and larger section of the population does not think so. https://www.npr.org/2025/10/01/nx-s1-5558304/poll-political-...

Something is fundamentally broken when the sitting president of the United States pardoned thousands convicted in a court of law of attempting to use violence to achieve political ends.

No wonder people are increasingly recognizing that democracy is now broken.

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Post by brimwats »

granzymes wrote: post #10

Political violence is not acceptable in a democracy. Full stop, no "but". That's all that needs to be said on this thread.

Political violence created and has sustained democracy, democracy is what happens when the violence fails and violence is what happens when the democracy fails.

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Post by the_gastropod »

remarkEon wrote: post #210
the_gastropod wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope. Both sides are not equivalent. The political right, in the U.S., has been significantly more violent than the political left for quite some time. And it’s not even close. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9335287/

Is this why shop owners board their windows and doors up every time there’s an [insert left wing cause] protest in their area? I haven’t kept up but was Charlie Kirk’s assassin a left or right winger, or one of those horseshoe fellas.

Are you trying to make a point? Go ahead and make it. Or are you one of those “just asking questions” types?

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Post by tim333 »

qmr wrote: post #257
wolvesechoes wrote: post #221

Somewhat funny to read all these holy, well-tamed, moral people condemning violence with most dumb, ungrounded "violence bad" that cannot even hold a second of scrutiny. Yes, violence shouldn't be the first resort, and when violence is unleashed innocent suffer as well, but there is a great difference between choosing not to use violence due to whatever consideration, and being so toothless and tamed that a sight of…

I agree. A lot of commenters who have probably had privileged lives and never faced a situation where violence was, in fact, the answer.

It's not good for this sort of disagree with a CEO stuff. Fighting Hitler is ok. Typed from England where we fought Hitler but don't generally go for CEOs. Is that privileged?

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Post by tim333 »

glerk wrote: post #119
hgoel wrote: post #99

Crazy, as bad of a person as I think Altman is, he isn't even the worst AI CEO. But even the worst of them doesn't deserve this.

I've been seeing some version of "Sam Altman is the antichrist" on every platform in the last few weeks. I'm still trying to find concretely what makes this guy so bad compared to every executive out there. So far, all I could find is: - OpenAI made a deal with the Pentagon (fair) - OpenAI changed their business model from non-profit to for-profit (fair?) - Sexual assault allegations by his sister. Sam Altman denies…

Whenever people object to thing-x they go for the most prominent leader of thing-x.

I personally object from him trying to divert trillions in investment from potential helping the hungry type stuff which is popular to sticking slop in everything which many don't want.

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Post by tim333 »

StayTrue wrote: post #44

Sam Altman the war contractor? I assume they are no longer called defense contractors under this administration.

It is something that the sticking point with Anthropic was autonomous AI killing machines and turning the military AI on the US population. I could see people not being happy with that.

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Post by estimator7292 »

refurb wrote: post #288
mbgerring wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have worked on electoral and initiative campaigns, and traveled thousands of miles to knock on doors. I’ve donated money. I’ve called my congresspeople. I’ve gone to and spoken at public meetings. I’ve protested, been tear gassed, beaten, and thrown in jail. I’ve been doing all of this continuously for about 20 years. I can tell you, from extensive experience going through the official channels, that the formal mec…

If you don’t have large support for your ideas then it shouldn’t be a surprise it’s hard. But that’s the intent of the system? Represent what most people want.

And what happens when your government heavily restricts who is allowed to vote?

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Post by kelipso »

maplethorpe wrote: post #197
kelipso wrote: post #154

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When they’re saying that most people will be unemployable in a few years and there is no plan to fix that…in a country where you go hungry and homeless without a job, people will get a bit restless.

Altman has made suggestions on how to fix this. I believe his main one is for AI to be subsidised so that it remains free for public use. The public could then use those free tokens to enrich themselves and offset any negative societal impacts.

This is obviously unworkable and delusional. Not sure what kind of worldview would produce this type of idea and see it as practical. Maybe more exposure to normal people is needed instead of being insulated in the AI filter bubble.
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