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Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by ramon156 » Mon, Apr 13, 2026, 6:23 AM UTC

bad_username wrote: post #234

wolvesechoes wrote: post #221

Somewhat funny to read all these holy, well-tamed, moral people condemning violence with most dumb, ungrounded "violence bad" that cannot even hold a second of scrutiny. Yes, violence shouldn't be the first resort, and when violence is unleashed innocent suffer as well, but there is a great difference between choosing not to use violence due to whatever consideration, and being so toothless and tamed that a sight of…

Where violence is acceptable as a tool, it empowers "cruel humans" on average much more than "beaten dogs".

If you are getting bombed by the opposing country, is a ballot going to stop that?

We're not on first resort anymore, people are dying because they cannot afford living.

Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by impossiblefork » Mon, Apr 13, 2026, 6:26 AM UTC

granzymes wrote: post #10

Political violence is not acceptable in a democracy. Full stop, no "but". That's all that needs to be said on this thread.

Political violence is actually really important.

Here in Sweden, back in the 1400eds etc. the farmers often made war on the government whenever it did anything they didn't like. This had the long term consequence, that by the end of this era, self-owning farmers owned 50% of the land in Sweden, whereas in Denmark, which did not have this kind of violence, it was only 10%.

It's incredibly important to be feared and to engage in violence, so that you are in practice and can threaten your political opponents, and this remains true in a democracy.

It's important that powerful people know they can't trust that they will truly be protected by the laws if they do something which harms others-- that the veneer of civilization is thin and the masses dangerous. Otherwise you end up with very dangerous situations where people can get away with anything that's legal.

Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by ost-ing » Mon, Apr 13, 2026, 6:28 AM UTC

agentifysh wrote: post #240

This is unacceptable and a growing issue in America, anti-AI has become just another focal point for the far end of the political spectrum to rally and ultimately radicalize violence.

What is unacceptable is how these technology companies steal the IP of collective humanity, gate keep it and force us to pay a subscription service to use it against each other in a perverted downward spiral powered by capitalist game theory. The neoluddite revolution is forming, have no doubts about that.

Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by thefz » Mon, Apr 13, 2026, 6:28 AM UTC

avaer wrote: post #7

In case someone reading this is thinking similar thoughts: there's no version of reality where doing this will solve any problem. Don't.

But ultimately that is what you get for fucking with the people for too long and assuming wealth/status/power is an armor. Source: the French revolution

Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by cindyllm » Mon, Apr 13, 2026, 6:32 AM UTC

bad_username wrote: post #234

wolvesechoes wrote: post #221

Somewhat funny to read all these holy, well-tamed, moral people condemning violence with most dumb, ungrounded "violence bad" that cannot even hold a second of scrutiny. Yes, violence shouldn't be the first resort, and when violence is unleashed innocent suffer as well, but there is a great difference between choosing not to use violence due to whatever consideration, and being so toothless and tamed that a sight of…

Where violence is acceptable as a tool, it empowers "cruel humans" on average much more than "beaten dogs".

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Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by impossiblefork » Mon, Apr 13, 2026, 6:32 AM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #36

d3ff wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> the sentiment for many is that 'we don't care we have nothing to lose anyway' Everyone says this before they learn what they didn’t value. Peace, for example. > Its easy for you to say, all perched up as a VC It’s easy to say for anyone who has read the history of political violence. When that comes on the table, universally [1], the people with power also have the power to raise armies. The people who stand to ben…

I think you're extremely wrong here.

Here in Sweden, political violence by the farmer class ensured that by the end of the pre-democracy era, self-owning farmers held 50% of the land, whereas in Denmark, it was only 10%.

This was due to violence, serious, organized war-like violence; and yes, of course the government brought in mercenaries, noble forces, etc. but fighting the farmer class had a substantial cost, and that they were willing to impose that cost gave them better conditions.

Killing guys at the bottom is very different from killing somebody at the top. If people are killing activists, journalists etc. that is always oppression. If people are killing people at the top it can be either way, depending on whether they are put there by some large grass-roots phenomenon or are trying to run society from the top of a pyramid, but in your argument you are placing these things as equal, you say:

>If CEOs getting killed is normal, then activists against those companies getting killed is normal too

and this is false. It is so false I don't quite understand how anyone can write it.

Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by qmr » Mon, Apr 13, 2026, 6:34 AM UTC

wolvesechoes wrote: post #221

Somewhat funny to read all these holy, well-tamed, moral people condemning violence with most dumb, ungrounded "violence bad" that cannot even hold a second of scrutiny. Yes, violence shouldn't be the first resort, and when violence is unleashed innocent suffer as well, but there is a great difference between choosing not to use violence due to whatever consideration, and being so toothless and tamed that a sight of…

I agree. A lot of commenters who have probably had privileged lives and never faced a situation where violence was, in fact, the answer.

Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by treebeard901 » Mon, Apr 13, 2026, 6:35 AM UTC

Only a matter of time before ChatGPT of the future sends a terminator back in time to protect and/or stop him...

Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by Teever » Mon, Apr 13, 2026, 6:35 AM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #22

Avicebron wrote: post #14

Violence won't solve anything, everyone is worse off.

> Violence won't solve anything Violence can solve problems. This kind of violence is stupid, counterproductive and immoral. Strategically deploying violence takes time, resources and discipline. Wanking off with a gun does not.

When do you think that we will see the first successful strike on a CEO with a drone?

Re: Sam Altman's home targeted in second attack

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Post by hdgvhicv » Mon, Apr 13, 2026, 6:38 AM UTC

ordu wrote: post #105

samrus wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get the sentiment but this is disengenuous. Political violence built this democracy

I believe it doesn't matter. You see, if you try applying this trick to different traits of a society, it would lead to conclusions like: it is impossible for us to build an environmentally conscious society because we come here by being environmentally unconscious. It is a historical determinism, and it just don't work. For example, Europe was mostly a constant war between states, but after WWII it managed to come t…

> at least there are no more slavery or segregation, and racism is not accepted anymore.

That’s just an example of American propaganda