Was hoping to upgrade from my 2017 iMac and this new studio display is quite a bummer. 9 years later and it's basically the same display spec. (500 nits spec bump to 600 nits)
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#322May be an overkill but is anyone using it for coding? How is the experience so far?
There’s a few reasons why.
1. Non integer scaling sucks on Linux. It sucks on all OSs, but it’s just unusable on Linux IMO.
2. Text antialiasing sucks for most OSs except Microsoft ClearType, but I hate Windows.
I currently use an old LG UltraFine 5k. It’s physically cracking / falling apart and has atrocious burn in. I tried replacing it with a Dell 32” 6k monitor. The stupid matte coating on it and seemingly all other high DPI screens is so, so bad.
I just want glossy 5k at 120Hz with decent build quality and color accuracy.
I don’t even like the fact it’s mini LED. Blooming is pretty awful on those things. I hope there’s a way to turn it off.
So yes, I bought a $3,500 monitor to read text because no one else can seem to do it even remotely acceptably.
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#324Having a display that "just works" is worth a lot, in my opinion.
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> I'm personally on the old 30" 16:10 2560x1600 form factor I sorta wish that form factor had taken off instead of 27" 1440p. The extra vertical space is really nice, and that seems to be the ideal PPI for 100% scaling IMHO. I keep telling myself I'd like to get a 4K OLED display at the same PPI, but 40" seems to be conspicuously missing in every monitor lineup... at least at a price that will convince me to buy thre…
Agree! I still have several (now discontinued) Philips 40 inch monitors, and that is the perfect size to do programming work. Very little scrolling needed while you work. But I would love to have a 40 inch in 4K+ instead of 2560x1600, why is no one making these? (I did get a Samsung 8K 50 inch, but that's too large for a multi screen setup)
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I bought an LG 32" 4k OLED for $999 and it's hands down the best display I've ever used. No burn in even with lots of static browser/terminal windows for days and days. The fact that it's $3k and _not_ OLED is insulting.
I believe these monitors are meant for professionals, which means it is going to be used in bright office buildings. That means running the display at high brightness which is the worst case for OLED since they degrade faster at higher brightness. Quoting wikipedia: > A US Department of Energy paper shows that the expected lifespans of OLED lighting products goes down with increasing brightness, with an expected life…
Plus, coding at night on OLED just makes me want to write more code. It's great.
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#328I was hoping for OLED or dual-OLED based monitors, especially for this price point but I’d want this slightly lower than the XDR price. Sequoia+Tahoe seems like they’ve been laying the groundwork for OLED macs — removing the menu bar background and making text dynamically change colour, moving/cycling backgrounds, liquid glass reducing the effect of static UI elements, etc. I personally wouldn’t buy a new LCD based d…
The implementation is great, since it doesn't add fix up profile on top factory calibration, but actually fully replaces factory calibration internal LUT. It worked wonders to completely fix my M1 MBP screen that got noticeably tinted over time. I don't mind brightness reduction since I almost never use it at more than 200 nits, usually around 100. Nominal 1600 leaves lots of buffer for decay over time.
I've had similar issue my OLED TV with the same fix. Got my LG C1 calibrated as well and it looks fantastic again.
It's a shame there are no iOS or Android phones that support calibration out of the box. Some iPads support subset of pro display calibration software (called fine tune calibration), but still lack full recalibration support.
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So... it helps you understand that's the main selling point of the monitors is the range of brightness? XDR stands for "Extreme Dynamic Range" - not sure how that's misleading or why sticking "LCD" into the title helps anyone figure out what the features of the panel are as most LCDs have awful range. Using OLED directly in names works because OLED panels inherently have common features like blacks, contrast, and lac…
> So... it helps you understand that's the main selling point of the monitors is the range of brightness? Doesn't help much because LCDs getting significantly brighter than OLEDs is normal. > XDR stands for "Extreme Dynamic Range" - not sure how that's misleading or why sticking "LCD" into the title helps anyone figure out what the features of the panel are as most LCDs have awful range The dynamic range of this LCD…
The point isn't it's brighter than OLEDs specifically, that's just why it can't have been OLED, the point is it's significantly brighter than normal LCD monitors which are usually > The dynamic range of this LCD is still not necessarily higher than of an OLED because dynamic range depends both on maximal and minimal brightness. So "extreme dynamic range" is highly uninformative, while "OLED" or "LCD with local dimming", or something like that, wouldn't be.
But the dynamic range is actually significantly wider. It goes from a few nits to 2,000 nits peak/1,000 nits sustained full screen. That OLED goes from 0 nits to ~1,000 nits peak/~400 nits sustained full screen on panels of this size makes the contrast much higher, not the range.
> XDR is simply a marketing term. Apple is doing the same thing here as TV manufacturers who come up with ever new fantasy acronyms.
Well of course it's a marketing term. That isn't the same thing as being meaningless or hiding that it's an LCD. It's literally marketing the main feature.
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Agree! I still have several (now discontinued) Philips 40 inch monitors, and that is the perfect size to do programming work. Very little scrolling needed while you work. But I would love to have a 40 inch in 4K+ instead of 2560x1600, why is no one making these? (I did get a Samsung 8K 50 inch, but that's too large for a multi screen setup)
Any other requirements? I noticed this one recently, but 40" is a bit big for my taste: https://www.dell.com/en-ca/shop/dell-ultrasharp-40-curved-th...