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Re: Apple Studio Display and Studio Display XDR

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Post by archagon »

jasomill wrote: post #167
archagon wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s quite possible this is running with a reduced color space (chroma subsampling). Degradation happens automatically based on available throughput and most people don’t notice.

For desktop use? Chroma subsampling is obvious. DSC compression, on the other hand, is not. DisplayPort and HDMI support both.

It’s obvious if you use a test pattern and/or know what to look for: https://testufo.com/chroma

I had no idea what it was for the longest time. As it turns out, macOS frequently enables it even when it’s unnecessary, and without any way to override.

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Post by film42 »

craftkiller wrote: post #163
data-ottawa wrote: post #138

I was hoping for OLED or dual-OLED based monitors, especially for this price point but I’d want this slightly lower than the XDR price. Sequoia+Tahoe seems like they’ve been laying the groundwork for OLED macs — removing the menu bar background and making text dynamically change colour, moving/cycling backgrounds, liquid glass reducing the effect of static UI elements, etc. I personally wouldn’t buy a new LCD based d…

Along similar lines, there's no way I would buy an OLED at this price point. If I'm dropping $3k on a monitor, it needs to be a technology that lasts, not a technology that wears out over time.

I bought an LG 32" 4k OLED for $999 and it's hands down the best display I've ever used. No burn in even with lots of static browser/terminal windows for days and days. The fact that it's $3k and _not_ OLED is insulting.

Re: Apple Studio Display and Studio Display XDR

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Post by jasomill »

t1234s wrote: post #87

This looks like a new iMac Pro minus the computer. Its a shame they don't have anything where you can just dock your iPhone Pro to one of these to run macOS.

Or at the very least pair a Bluetooth mouse or trackpad to an iPhone for remote desktop use.

Re: Apple Studio Display and Studio Display XDR

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

bibstha wrote: post #88
conesus wrote: post #70

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VESA mounts are only a few bucks and give you even better height and tilt adjustment. You also get desk space back. I have a shorter desk (24" vs typical 30" depth) and I have two monitors and a laptop mounted on 3 VESAs and I can extend them so that the monitor edge is inline with the desk edge, giving me the same 24" that a 30" desk would have with a monitor stand.

Which mount do you have? I've got a 24" as well and I've never imagined I'd fit 2 monitors.

Herman Miller's Jarvis [1]. I'm probably paying up for the brand, but I got it installed a few years ago (with the nano-textured Studio display), and it works beautifully.

[1] https://store.hermanmiller.com/home-desk-accessories/jarvis-...

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Post by arndt »

presbyterian wrote: post #90
praseodym wrote: post #76

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The hardware is great, but the software is lacking. macOS only supports resolution-based scaling which makes anything but the default 200% pixel scaling mode look bad. For example, with a 27" 4K display many users will want to use 150% or 175% scaling to get enough real estate, but the image will look blurry because macOS renders at a higher resolution and then downscales to the 4K resolution of the screen. Both Wind…

> For example, with a 27" 4K display many users will want to use 150% or 175% scaling to get enough real estate, but the image will look blurry I use a Mac with a monitor with these specs (a Dell of some kind, I don't know the model number off the top of my head), at 150% scaling, and it's not blurry at all.

I also feel it's just fine. Not as amazing as the Apple displays, but I'll have to sit really close to make out the difference for text.

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Post by petercooper »

t1234s wrote: post #82

anyone else still using their 30" cinema display from 2003?

Not using, but I still have it. I get it running every couple of years and it's striking how dim it is compared to modern monitors. Yet I just can't bring myself to dispose of it or the 2007 Mac Pro it's attached to, despite them having absolutely zero utility.

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Post by agys »

bsimpson wrote: post #143
agys wrote: post #24

Too small… I got used to my 4K Philips OLED 42" that I hung directly on the wall in front of my desk (no stand at all)… USB-C cable also charges the MacBook. This size is so good to work with; so much screen estate.

You're using the pixels for something different than the target audience. People who want a Studio Display want retina crispness. If you enjoy a 42" 4k, you're more concerned with real estate than image fidelity. I'm happy with a 65" 4K TV in my living room, but a 4K 27" monitor is borderline too low-res for computer work. Same pixel count, but different use cases.

I think I’m absolutely the target audience: I’m a designer, programmer, animator. Crispness at 4k is still quite good at 1m distance from my face. I’d buy it without hesitation if it came much, much larger.

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Post by Fr0styMatt88 »

densh wrote: post #13

I might be the only one, but it's still to this date (and dating all the way back to 2014 with the first iMac 5k display) Apple is the only company that truly gets HIDPI desktop displays with high quality gloss and 200+ ppi at screen this large. In the meantime popular and widely sold gaming screens with matte blur filters and mediocre ppi give me headache and eye fatigue after a few hours of use. Prior generation St…

There’s a solid use case for matte screens. I use an 800R curved monitor and there’s absolutely no way that would work for me if it wasn’t matte. I know this because when I glance over at my coworker’s 1200R glossy screen it’s like looking in a funhouse mirror.

Edge use case I know.

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