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Post by giraffe_lady »

jb1991 wrote: post #200

It sounds funny, but it's not. I once issued a bug to them that didn't have enough information about how to reproduce... and I was lambasted on Reddit and eventually just deleted my account there it was so terrifying. Some dev teams do not mess around. In fact I've shied off most social media since and no longer issue bug reports to any company, I was scarred deep over the treatment.

Please ignore everyone else and do not share any more information about this experience or yourself. These people do not have your best interests in mind and will not mind, or are intending to, make this experience even worse for you.

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Post by miohtama »

causalscience wrote: post #44
nchmy wrote: post #11

I've been helping a bit with OWASP documentation lately and there's been a surge of Indian students eagerly opening nonsensical issues and PRs and all of the communication and code is clearly 100% LLMs. They'll even talk back and forth with each other. It's a huge headache for the maintainers. I suggested following what Ghostty does where everything starts as discussions - only maintainers create issues, and PRs can…

> Indian students Is this cultural? I ran a small business some years ago (later failed) and was paying for contract work to various people. At the I perceived the pattern that Indian contractors would never ever ask for clarifications, would never say they didn't know something, would never say they didn't understand something, etc. Instead they just ran with whatever they happened to have in their mind, until I cal…

Indians gaming the system, discussed before the AI on Hacker News, about Hacktoberfest

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24658052

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Post by giraffe_lady »

Sammi wrote: post #313
xandrius wrote: post #272

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Yeo without any sort of context, it's just like throwing a stone and then running away.

Yeah I had to downvote because of this. If you don't bring receipts then it's just slander.

Gotta let the legal team know about that I hadn't heard they changed it.

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Post by yorwba »

bluGill wrote: post #293
yorwba wrote: post #225

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For a person finding bugs for a living, an up-front fee to have their report reviewed by a maintainer would amount to an investment towards receiving a bug bounty if their report is valid and valuable. Just the cost of doing business. It would discourage drive-by reports by people who just happened to notice a bug and want to let the maintainers know, but I think for a project that's high-profile enough to be flooded…

Only if the system is fair. If I as a maintainer want to scam I can just close the report as invalid, collect the $$$. Then a week latter I fix the issue with a commit that looks like it is unrelated. I wouldn't do the above, but it is easy to see how I could run that scam.

You can look at how the maintainer dealt with previous bug reports to decide whether you can trust them or not. If there haven't been any previous bug reports but they nonetheless ask for a fee to help deal with the large volume of bug reports, yeah, that might be a scam. If you're running their software, maybe also check whether it's full of malware.

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Post by ragall »

moralestapia wrote: post #187
freakynit wrote: post #126

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Indian here (~15+ years in tech). I've seen this behavior a lot, and unfortunately, I did some of this myself earlier in my career. Based on my own experience, here are a few reasons (could be a lot more): 1. Unlike most developed countries, in India (and many other develping countries), people in authority are expected to be respected unconditinally(almost). Questioning a manager, teacher, or senior is often seen as…

Since we are talking about LLMs, what I've noticed about the Indian/Pakistani "LLM" is they follow this way of structuring thoughts: 1. They 2. Always 3. List 4. Things ... and end up with a conclusion/punchline/takeaway. I always wanted to ask, is that due to training? I could imagine all schools around there have a specific style, like all their assignments need to follow this general form, and then they just get u…

It's due to training (I suspect both OpenAI/Microsoft and Google have been training on their entire corpus of internal comms and technical docs). After almost 10 years in a FAANG I also tend to write like that.

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Post by direwolf20 »

bluGill wrote: post #255
com wrote: post #201

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Could you expand on the other problems with Europe other than hiring and firing laws?

Senior/staff type engineers are not a union position so great people refuse promotions and responsibility because they don't want to leave the union. Thus they won't mentor juniors, and other things that you need great engineers for. (At least that is how the union people I work with in Europe are, there are other unions with different rules) There is probably more.

Which country is that in? Can you not offer them better conditions than the union? Are they forced to leave the union or just no longer required to be in it?

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Post by oefrha »

Aurornis wrote: post #307
oefrha wrote: post #288

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At this point I won’t consider any GitHub activity after ~2024 as hiring signals unless it’s very substantial work on high profile projects that clearly have high bars.

Sadly that was already the case prior to LLMs. We had a bootcamp in our city that had all students build a GitHub portfolio. They all built the same projects like a TODO app. Every person’s code would like almost identical because they all did them together and, I suspect, copied from past grads. They all applied to the same local jobs, too. So we’d get a batch of their resumes with GitHub links, follow the GitHub li…

I mean I never considered having GitHub projects as anything. If you have project(s) that seem useful and have let's say a hundred stars or more (rough signal assuming no foul play), I'll have a look. If you say you have meaningful contributions to projects with a thousand stars or more, I may have a look as well.

Now my bars are so massively higher, 99.95% of juniors who don't have pre-2024 work to show can forget about it.

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Post by overfeed »

wolvoleo wrote: post #280
koliber wrote: post #212

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I've seen an interesting behavior in India. If I ask someone on the street for directions, they will always give me an answer, even if they don't know. If they don't know, they'll make something up. This was strange. I asked a lot of Indian people about it and they said that it has to do with "saving face". Saying "I don't know" is a disgraceful thing. So if someone does not know the answer, they make something up in…

No, but I have noticed that somehow it's hard for them to say "no". This is impolite apparently. So you ask: "Can you do this before friday" and they say yes and then don't do it at all. Which of course is a lot less polite and causes a lot of friction. However this was a thing 10-15 years ago. Lately I've not seen that.

> Which of course is a lot less polite and causes a lot of friction.

Most cultures have this, but it goes mostly unnoticed from the inside because one can read between the lines. "How are you?" can be asked just to be polite, and can cause friction when answered truthfully (rather than just politely, as the cultural dance requires). An Eastern European may not appreciate the insincerity of such a question.

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Post by leephillips »

virgil_disgr4ce wrote: post #296
leephillips wrote: post #254

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I got this so often in every part of the United States that some decades ago I just stopped asking anyone for directions.

I've never once experienced this nor literally ever heard anyone say someone gave them made-up directions in the US. The only time I've ever experienced made-up directions were trying to get out of the souk in Marrakech.

I was unclear. I’m pretty sure the wrong directions I routinely got in the US (I was born and raised in NYC) were not made up, just wrong.

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Post by zo1 »

nchmy wrote: post #11

I've been helping a bit with OWASP documentation lately and there's been a surge of Indian students eagerly opening nonsensical issues and PRs and all of the communication and code is clearly 100% LLMs. They'll even talk back and forth with each other. It's a huge headache for the maintainers. I suggested following what Ghostty does where everything starts as discussions - only maintainers create issues, and PRs can…

Yet again poor communal behavior ruining it for the rest of society, and why we can't have nice things and colonize the stars.
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