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Nothing in AI is more edgy and annoying than beginning every response with a mandatory glazing, like ChatGPT. “That’s a really insightful question, and shows that you really understand the subject!”

Nothing is more edgy than the AI being too polite? Are we just inventing new meanings for words?

Politeness is not the same thing as gratuitous praise. Politeness is appropriate; being excessively glazed for asking an obvious follow-up question is weird.

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I started with ChatGPT, then moved on to Claude, and then discovered Grok. But now I've stopped paying for any of them. Claude edged out ChatGPT in quality, while Grok stood out with its generous usage limits. That all changed, though, once they rolled out the agent system and RLHF. Suddenly, the model slowed to a crawl, veering off on wrong paths and getting lost in its own reasoning. Those endless, super-annoying R…

I guess I joined Claude late, but its been working pretty decent for me. I've been using Claude Code with Zed now that it's a native feature. Honestly, if you're building coding APIs for your LLM and you aren't working with the Zed folks to get your model natively in that editor, you're messing up big in my eyes, its just done so well. My biggest gripe with Grok is they're not really integrated in all the great tooli…

I complained to them about the missing CLI. That was probably the last straw that made me decide to stop paying for it. They could deliver a CLI with calls included in SuperGrok, and a lot of people would stop using Gemini CLI and Qwen Code.

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Nothing is more edgy than the AI being too polite? Are we just inventing new meanings for words?

Politeness is not the same thing as gratuitous praise. Politeness is appropriate; being excessively glazed for asking an obvious follow-up question is weird.

Right, and neither politeness nor gratuitous praise are even remotely similar to being edgy. These words have meanings, you have been using at least one of them incorrectly, that is the point I'm trying to make.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/edgy

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/edgy

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It's extremely disrespectful to call the people from minority and diminishing cultures racist or white supremacist for protecting their own culture. Birth rate / demographic / cultural shifts are real problems. Elon has never talked about "white people" or their superiority. These issues have nothing to do with skin color. Same issues are faced by many asian countries as well.

>> Elon has never talked about "white people" or their superiority I would encourage you to try to avoid making such easily falsifiable claims, and put at least some token effort into your arguments. I was able to find the below with less than five minutes of searching. https://www.timesofisrael.com/after-musk-prods-adl-says-kill... Said tweet: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1686037774510497792 He also endorsed an X p…

I don't see how you conclude that Elon is so focussed on white people. From the articles you posted, it seems more about culture rather than skin color.

The only times he seems to talk about "white" people is when these people are being prejudged for their skin color.

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I do. You’re certainly right. I just don’t like reducing the entire political compass to “marxist/smth.” and “nazis”. That both devalues these words and and leaves out any nuance. Guys like Trump or Putin are not nazis (yet). They do resemble Mussolini on various and often quite deep levels. So fascist would probably be the more correct term. As for Musk I’m not sure. Drugs and whatever mental issues he’s suffering f…

My philosophy is "if it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a duck". Is there a chance that it's not a duck? Sure. Does it matter? Not unless you're a duck scientist. Ultimately I find that there is very little to gain from thinking hard about whether they are just Nazi boosters/sympathizers or actual Neo-nazis, because in practical terms it makes virtually no difference.

But in what way does Elon act like a nazi? Sure he's right wing on some topics, and he speaks out against racism against white people. Something controversial in this woke world, but therefore also important for a certain group that's feeling oppressed by the extreme left. But that doesn't make him a nazi.

You can disagree with his points, but you can't logically say from it that he's a nazi or sexist or racist or whatever. If you prejudge someone like that, you're being very ironic, because you're doing the same thing you're accusing someone of.

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Come on, I would also never use Grok because Elon is an arsehole. He's not a neonazi though. That's ridiculous.

He did heil a couple of times. And created mechahitler. And lied about "white genocide" in South africa. And called a white supremacist talking point "the actual truth" We should be careful of labeling people Nazis, but Elon does seem to be playing on the wrong side of that fence.

> He did heil a couple of times.

Also a democratic senator, Cary Booker, did the same salute recently [0]. But when a Democrat does it nobody really cares. Or rather people seem to understand that it's also just a natural wave towards a public that, in a certain snapshot could be interpreted as a nazi salute.

[0]: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/conservatives-drag-booker-n...

> And created mechahitler.

Just like Google Gemini was too woke before, and generated images of people with about +50% colored, even if it was asked to draw German soldiers in the second world war.

And both companies have apologised and corrected the issues. And many AI companies have their controversies.

It is indeed concerning, but I basically would never trust any propietary LLM, because you never know how it's trained. But I don't boycott any particular one because of their bias, but rather combine and compare them. Then you can see which ones filter what kind of information.

> And lied about "white genocide" in South africa.

What do you mean exactly with "lied"? I agree that probably the word genocide is exaggerated. But I think there is certainly nasty stuff going on against white people in South Africa. Not to say that it doesn't happen the other way around either, but then again you should be fair and have both sides have a voice.

> And called a white supremacist talking point "the actual truth"

I dived into this story at the time. And what I found, was that this one "truth" tweet was a response to a response from someone in a discussion about a certain Jewish organization (ADL). Elon was criticizing this organization for pusing an anti-white racism message. Basically because they were saying that Elon taking over Twitter would make it more antisemetic. So they were just blaming each other and it classicly escalated with a Elon tweet that he did later regret. But yeah, I again don't think this is necessarily suggests that he supports racist ideologies. Rather that he opposes it. But standing up against white-racism is often seen as being a white supremacist and antisemitic.

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Because someone's moderation is censorship to someone else. Begging Musk for free speech is another issue in itself though so you better don't bet on X allowing you to speak forever.

Free speech is one of these things that is always used as a trojan for doing ultimate good. Let us empower anybody to say anything they want AND enforce everybody to have to listen to it. Anonymous free speech is not free speech. There is no accountability. It should not should not be a human right. Its destroying our societies. The evidence should be clear by now.

If you really think that free speech is the trojan horse and not "moderation to fight misinformation or bad behavior" we are not the same.
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