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Nice. Lots of people still claim that M1 is super duper fast but now we're at almost twice the performance!
A car that travels 0-60 MPH in 2 seconds is fast A car that does this in 4 seconds is still fast (though twice as slow)
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Will the base core count and mix between perf and efficient cores remain the same? That has lead to different scaling factors for the multicore performance than the single core metrics.
Possibly, at least compared to the previous M4 generation. For the lowest tier M models to this point: M1 (any): 4P + 4E M2 (any): 4P + 4E M3 (any): 4P + 4E M4 (iPad): 3P + 6E M4 (Mac): 4P + 6E M5 (iPad): 3P + 6E (claimed) M5 (Mac): Unknown It's worth noting there are often higher tier models that still don't earn the "Pro" moniker. E.g. there is a 4P + 8E variant of the iMac which is still marketed as just having a…
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There have been lots of complaints all over the place that contradict your experience. One article that talks about it: https://osxdaily.com/2025/09/19/why-im-holding-off-on-upgrad... For less discerning users maybe the rough edges aren't that noticeable. But the point of choosing Apple products is you should be a discerning consumer.
This a pretty insulting comment. I’m sure ther is better word then discerning.
the point i'm trying to make is that "apple consumers" are more critical.
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Here's the comparison between the M4 iPad Pro and the M5: https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/compare/14173685?baseli... About 10% faster for single-core and 16% faster for multi-core compared to the M4. The iPad M5 has the same number of cores and the same clock speed as the M4, but has increased the RAM from 8GB to 12GB.
M4 iPads with the top two storage tiers (1 or 2 TB) already come with 12 GB. Maybe they’re changing to all having 12GB though, who knows.
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Here’s the multi core Geekbench progression: M1: 8350 M2: 9700 M3: 11650 M4: 14600 M5: 16650 (estimated) This is assuming an 8% uplift as mentioned. Also nice.
I wish we could get something other than Geekbench for these things, since Geekbench seems to be trash. For example, it has the Ryzen 7 7700X with a higher multi-core score than the Epyc 9534 even though they're both Zen4 and the latter has 8 times as many cores and is significantly faster on threaded workloads in real life.
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Here’s the multi core Geekbench progression: M1: 8350 M2: 9700 M3: 11650 M4: 14600 M5: 16650 (estimated) This is assuming an 8% uplift as mentioned. Also nice.
I wish we could get something other than Geekbench for these things, since Geekbench seems to be trash. For example, it has the Ryzen 7 7700X with a higher multi-core score than the Epyc 9534 even though they're both Zen4 and the latter has 8 times as many cores and is significantly faster on threaded workloads in real life.
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I use one for software development and it's great. Sometimes rust builds are slow and I'd love to force that to be faster with hardware (optimizing build time would be a huge undertaking with not-so-great returns), otherwise I'm totally content. I also have an M2 Max with 32GB of RAM that still feels like magic. I've never had computers that felt so fast for so long.
I dunno, working with M1 daily I struggle with resource contention and slow py/js builds. I'd love something faster when work provides me with updated device.
I mention this because I'm guessing you might be using Desktop Docker which is kinda slow.
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Just upgraded my M1 Pro to an M4 Max. Roughly an order of magnitude faster local inference, though I haven’t benchmarked it. Outside of that though, it’s really hard to tell the difference. M1 is/was a beast and plenty fast enough for daily work.
I have an M1 Max and I'm curious, do you notice any difference in battery life/power usage?
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I’ve found that the $1000 Mac laptop is worth about $500 after 3 years and the $500 laptop is worth $50. The price difference over time really isn’t that big and the Mac is going to have a better trackpad and display and longer battery life.
If your $1000 MacBook breaks after a year you need $1000 to repair it. A 500 laptop is probably more repairable and worst case you pay $500 to get a new one. Not to mention battery replacement etc. The expected total cost of ownership is very high for a Mac. It’s like owning a Mercedes. Maybe you can afford to buy one, but you cannot afford maintenance.