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Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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Post by masfuerte »

0xWTF wrote: post #53

In case you haven't contemplated this logistics challenge before: the key is you need to stock shelf-stable products in these stores and at some point in their shelf life, transfer them out to other stores for actual consumption and back fill the emergency stores with fresh lots of new shelf stable products. You're just buying more shelf-stable supply once and then managing the transit through the supply chain with s…

This is completely obvious, yet before covid the British government paid a private company to fill warehouses with face masks, etc.

By the time covid started all of this PPE had gone past its use by date. The incompetence is breathtaking.

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Post by throw310822 »

mopsi wrote: post #318
throw310822 wrote: post #219

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Let's roll out a red carpet for Russians all the way to Paris (or maybe Lisbon?) This is the kind of platitudes I'm talking about. Russia is struggling to advance in a couple of regions in Ukraine, how do you think they would fare with attacking Europe and reaching Paris or Lisbon? Seriously.

They'd fare much better. Ukraine had a large pool of conscripts, a professional cadre with combat experience from the Donbas, and deep Soviet stocks to draw from, while Western Europe abolished conscription and destroyed its Cold War stockpiles a long time ago. The current reintroduction of conscription and massive investment in defense are clear signs that European armies were (and for some time, will remain) inadeq…

Compared to Ukraine, Europe has enormous amounts of money and modern weaponry, including nuclear weapons, nuclear submarines, hundreds of f-16s, f-35s, and twelve times the population of Ukraine for twenty times the size. For God's sake.

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Post by 4ggr0 »

hnbad wrote: post #284
jamesblonde wrote: post #166

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The worst thing is the lack of solidarity towards the danes here in Sweden. If Trump turns off Microsoft, Sweden will shrug its shoulders and privately say - thank god it's not us. yet.

East Germany had a strategy for dealing with political opponents it referred to as Zersetzung . The FBI had a similar operation for political movements like the Black Panthers that's widely known as COINTELPRO. Both of those very evidently extremely successfully but ended decades ago. We know that Russia still uses similarly subversive tactics internationally, especially in public messaging (popularizing multiple mut…

> There's also the dissolved BND/CIA co-operation (via a Swiss proxy I think?)

sounds like Crypto AG[0]

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto_AG

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Post by Thorrez »

chvid wrote: post #118

One of our biggest practical vulnerabilities is that our payment and electronic id infrastructure (nets, dankort, mitid) has been sold off to a private company (Mastercard) even though it was at one point a government owned and developed setup.

In an emergency, electronic payment won't work at all, right? People will have to use cash I think.

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Post by jfengel »

daniel_iversen wrote: post #94
jfengel wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We change our Bill of Rights all the time. We just do it by "reinterpreting" it, i.e. applying the prejudices of the last 4 or 5 Presidents. Conveniently, none of it actually means anything at all, so it is routinely reinterpreted to mean exactly the opposite of what it might appear to mean. That's not quite true. You still can't quarter soldiers in somebody's house. We Americans have a firm fixed belief in the Third…

What I said was the US hasn't changed the 10 amendments (as far as I know) - they're written exactly the same way they were hundreds of years ago, right?. Agree with you it seems like people are playing whack-a-mole trying to fiddle with the interpretations, but maybe they need to have a look at the actual core 10 amendments in the first place?

There is no practical way to amend them. People are absolutely and fervently attached to their interpretations, and the bar to amendment is extremely high.

If it were possible to amend them, then it wouldn't be necessary; we'd already agree on a less-unreasonable interpretation.

I think it is entirely clear that after 250 years they aren't even slightly fit for purpose, if they ever were. But I cannot see a way to revisit them without re-applying the process under which they were written in the first place.

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Post by KronisLV »

glxxyz wrote: post #46
londons_explore wrote: post #41

What pays for this? If an emergency store costs 10% more to run, and emergencies are only 1 day in 10,000, then prices during emergencies would need to be 1000x normal for it to make business sense. Unfortunately anti-price-gouging laws wouldn't allow that, nor would you manage to keep law and order in the shop when telling customers that a bottle of water is gonna cost them 2000 dollars/euros.

It sounds like the company is doing it as a community service. It doesn't make 'business sense' except perhaps by improving the company's image. Companies also donate to charities etc. “This is our core task and a responsibility we take on, and we also believe that it is timely […] that we – like other countries – prepare for possible crisis situations, which a good and constructive dialogue with the Minister of Publ…

> It sounds like the company is doing it as a community service. It doesn't make 'business sense' except perhaps by improving the company's image. Companies also donate to charities etc.

I applaud this kinda thing.

In a sensible world, that'd mean not just positive PR alongside the actual social utility, but also maybe the government being a bit more encouraging when it comes to taxes etc.

Plus, who knows, if they stock up a bunch on canned goods and still need to sell them in a reasonable amount of time, it might lead to a few good discounts here and there and also be a good thing for the regular consumer.

Aside from that, having a generator and accepting cash payments just seems like good common sense stuff to do.

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Post by 4ggr0 »

xp84 wrote: post #126
ambicapter wrote: post #35

Wait, so we're now approaching risk levels high enough that's its economically feasible for businesses to prepare for situations where their stores lose power, telecom, and resupply? Are we already preparing for land war across western Europe?

Yeah, in my humble opinion anyone in Europe that considers wider war breaking out to be farfetched is not paying enough attention. You can be forgiven however if you're a millennial (as I am) or younger, because the long peace has been so long that it seems crazy that Russia might start dropping bombs, say, on Copenhagen or London. "They wouldn't dare attack NATO" we would have said 10 years ago. But today, NATO is a…

> But my perception is that the very notion of war would shock the s*t out of the 20-somethings that Western Europe would need to conscript in order to fight an all-out war

as a 20-something western european i don't see why i should die because some politicians behave like absolute fucking pieces of shits. if war breaks out in my country or they start conscripting people like me i'll just flee the country together with whomever would like to join me.

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Post by jamesblonde »

victorbjorklund wrote: post #285
jamesblonde wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Sweden, we have Swish, thank God. We don't have Greenland either, so people aren't as worried about 'exogenous shocks'.

On the other hand, Swish is fully owned by a couple of banks together. So they have full control over Swish and also over BankID, which means that they can deny people from access or if they are down then you know we're screwed. So even if it's not relying on one single company it's relying on a few companies that work together. So instead of a monopoly it's a cartel.

Those banks are under Swedish jurisdiction. Big difference.

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Post by TrojanHookworm »

infinite8s wrote: post #320
TrojanHookworm wrote: post #296

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What does this have to do with whether or not Greenland is a colony?

In what other country does a jail sentence mean you get sent to another country to serve the sentence? (Except maybe the US now with detained immigrants)

Nuuk has had its own closed prison for a while now, with inmates in Denmark given the option to transfer there. I don't know how many are still in Herstedvester but it can't be many and afaik they are not forced to stay there. Is this what you're referring to?

I'm not disputing the colonial history of Greenland/Denmark or the oppression inflicted on the Inuit (which didn't end in 1953) but I struggle to see the point you and the other poster are trying to make. You both seem to be making insinuations based on facts that are simply not true/up to date.

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