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The Rise of the Japanese Toilet

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Re: The Rise of the Japanese Toilet

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Post by numpad0 »

NooneAtAll3 wrote: post #68
ghaff wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ideally you need nearby electrical and ability to get water to the washlet seat. Which is fairly easy/cheap in a bathroom remodel (which is what I did) but not necessarily easy/cheap otherwise. (There are simpler ways you can get part-way there as noted in this thread.)

...why would you need electricity for a seat with water?

Because the Japanese implementation is electro-mechanical. The nozzle auto-cleans and deploy from the big end like a fighter jet refueling boom with press of a button, sometimes on a control panel, sometimes via an IR remote.

Things get interesting when the remote dies in the middle of the ordeal or the stop button could not be immediately located.

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Post by jeffhuys »

sublinear wrote: post #35

I think paper is perfectly fine for most people who do not have certain medical problems, given a few prerequisites. The main one is diet. Eat enough fiber so it's not a mess in the first place. This has many other benefits too. The next in priority is wet wipes. I strongly prefer them, and they are portable unlike a bidet. They are super useful while away from the toilet as well. After that there's technique. I am c…

So I’m of the same opinion minus the wet wipes due to the obvious hazards. But if your diet is fine, there’s literally only what they call “ghost poop”.

It’s baffling to me, really. Also, it’s your anus, 99.9999% clean is also ok.

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Post by radlad »

illiac786 wrote: post #319
socalgal2 wrote: post #252

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that doesn't make them non-muslim things. Plently of things in those countries that are not from those countries

I feel it’s weird defining them by the main religion of the country it is (maybe) mostly used. No one says the numbers used in English are Muslim, they are generally referred to as Arabic. I wouldn’t say printing is a “catholic thing”, but it definitely came from a super catholic part of the world.

> After defecating, the anus must be washed with water using the left hand, or an odd number of smooth stones or pebbles called jamrah or hijaarah (Sahih Al-Bukhari 161, Book 4, Hadith 27).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_toilet_etiquette

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Post by apwell23 »

unhappy_meaning wrote: post #24

In almost all of SE Asia, especially Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia, all of the toilets come with a hand-held sprayer. They also had this in the Doha airport and I'm not sure how common this style is outside of SE Asia but I'm guessing it's common. Japanese style bidets are very common in Korean households as well and I'm sure its easily a billion dollar business. It is nice but the functionality is quite difficult for…

I have a question for bidet users. After you powerwash your anus, do you have a towel nearby to wipeoff ?

In india you can just put your clothes on after powerwash because it so hot and dries fast. I am guessing you don't want that in chicago winter.

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Post by apwell23 »

ssivark wrote: post #302
geodel wrote: post #228

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You are right about Asians ones. The ones I used in India However what I have gotten in american bathrooms are pretty decent with flow control are supply and handle bar depending on how much you squeeze. And with filters and all in place water comes with soft gushing way like American faucets. In my experience even least fancy American bathrooms are vastly more functional and cleaner by design than what I get in my t…

Common-use toilets in India can often be badly maintained, but it's also worth pointing out that there is also a cultural relativism in approaches to cleanliness in the bathroom. - For Indians, water & sunlight are the best cleansing/disinfecting agents. A bathroom that has been rinsed thoroughly with water+soap, and then dried in sunlight is the cleanest it could ever be. Indian bathrooms typically have windows allo…

> Wet somehow means soiled/used/disgusting

my american born indian nieces and nephews can never get used to indian toilets for this reason. This is one of the main reasons they are dying to go back when they visit india.

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Post by rickyc091 »

kappi wrote: post #230
marcusb wrote: post #32

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I bought $25 versions of this on Amazon during COVID... We did not anticipate or have any of problems you described.

most bidets starts leaking after 6-12 months. It is a flood hazard if the hose breaks.

I've been using the $20-25 ones since covid as well, so that's been six years without any issues. Knock on wood that something doesn't happen shortly.

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Post by Lio »

I haven’t seen anyone else discuss this and I don’t know the answer but…

Do water jets like this not spread worms and other intestinal parasites? I’d be especially worried about hand held jets in public restrooms and hotel bathrooms.

Does anyone have any hard information on that?

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Post by michaelsbradley »

unhappy_meaning wrote: post #24

In almost all of SE Asia, especially Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia, all of the toilets come with a hand-held sprayer. They also had this in the Doha airport and I'm not sure how common this style is outside of SE Asia but I'm guessing it's common. Japanese style bidets are very common in Korean households as well and I'm sure its easily a billion dollar business. It is nice but the functionality is quite difficult for…

After experiencing these hand sprayers during international travel, I installed them next to all of the toilets in our house. My wife grew up with something similar but had done without since living in the US, and hadn’t thought to suggest them to me. My Asian in-laws were/are happy about it, and our household toilet paper usage has plummeted.

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Post by Rendello »

Matheus28 wrote: post #178
Rendello wrote: post #10

I've used less advanced versions for a few years. The quality varies; the most recent one we put in is pretty horrible to use (but better than nothing). I've always wanted to try a real Toto, especially with the drying feature. A word of warning for female users: > Habitual use of bidet toilets aggravates vaginal microflora, either by depriving normal microflora or facilitating opportunistic infection of fecal bacter…

The drying is awful in my Toto, it's not enough air pressure. It'd take 20+ min to dry completely. It's nothing like those hand dryers in public bathrooms.

Maybe Toto and Dyson should collaborate!
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