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The Rise of the Japanese Toilet

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Re: The Rise of the Japanese Toilet

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Post by rayiner »

unhappy_meaning wrote: post #24

In almost all of SE Asia, especially Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia, all of the toilets come with a hand-held sprayer. They also had this in the Doha airport and I'm not sure how common this style is outside of SE Asia but I'm guessing it's common. Japanese style bidets are very common in Korean households as well and I'm sure its easily a billion dollar business. It is nice but the functionality is quite difficult for…

What’s weird about it. I assume you do clean down there with soap periodically … right?

Re: The Rise of the Japanese Toilet

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Post by marcusb »

unhappy_meaning wrote: post #24

In almost all of SE Asia, especially Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia, all of the toilets come with a hand-held sprayer. They also had this in the Doha airport and I'm not sure how common this style is outside of SE Asia but I'm guessing it's common. Japanese style bidets are very common in Korean households as well and I'm sure its easily a billion dollar business. It is nice but the functionality is quite difficult for…

I bought $25 versions of this on Amazon during COVID... We did not anticipate or have any of problems you described.

Re: The Rise of the Japanese Toilet

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Post by daoistmonk »

justsomehnguy wrote: post #25
MichaelRo wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> it’s incomprehensible that in other countries people just wipe and…hope for the best. Well ... I don't have a bidet but doesn't mean I don't wash my buttocks after doing business. Unfortunately it's a bit of a taboo subject so it's not discussed, not taught in school / hygiene classes, just let it be. Best example I heard from someone is this: imagine you dip your hands in Nutella. Then try to clean them just wipi…

> just water I keep in my mouth if in a public place / at work Sorry for intruding, but the water from some public place is the last thing I want in my or anyone else's mouth. May I suggest a water bottle or even a flask? Or if you already tried that, can you explain why it didn't work for you? Just an idle curiosity. Thanks in advance.

I interpreted this to mean spit.

Re: The Rise of the Japanese Toilet

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Post by scotty79 »

unhappy_meaning wrote: post #24

In almost all of SE Asia, especially Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia, all of the toilets come with a hand-held sprayer. They also had this in the Doha airport and I'm not sure how common this style is outside of SE Asia but I'm guessing it's common. Japanese style bidets are very common in Korean households as well and I'm sure its easily a billion dollar business. It is nice but the functionality is quite difficult for…

> you grab the handheld sprayer and turn it upside down and reach behind you

Why not from the front? It makes way more sense. Easier to aim and your butt seals against the back edge of bowl hole so the water doesn't splash out.

Re: The Rise of the Japanese Toilet

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Post by sublinear »

I think paper is perfectly fine for most people who do not have certain medical problems, given a few prerequisites.

The main one is diet. Eat enough fiber so it's not a mess in the first place. This has many other benefits too. The next in priority is wet wipes. I strongly prefer them, and they are portable unlike a bidet. They are super useful while away from the toilet as well. After that there's technique. I am confident that the people who complain about paper and wet wipes are simply wiping way too hard causing chafing or even fissures. I don't want to get too graphic, but you also need to "relax" a bit down there for the most thorough job instead of just a surface level wipe. Normal paper first for removal of the "bulk material" and wet wipes for the residue.

That's it folks! If you do all this right, washing your hands afterwards shouldn't need so much effort either.

Bonus tip: why not just carry a little atomizer bottle filled with water so you can make your own wet wipes in a pinch? The spray is gentle enough to not completely saturate and ruin even the thinnest and cheapest toilet paper you find in the wild, and such a spray bottle is again very useful away from the toilet.

Re: The Rise of the Japanese Toilet

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Post by exhilaration »

sublinear wrote: post #35

I think paper is perfectly fine for most people who do not have certain medical problems, given a few prerequisites. The main one is diet. Eat enough fiber so it's not a mess in the first place. This has many other benefits too. The next in priority is wet wipes. I strongly prefer them, and they are portable unlike a bidet. They are super useful while away from the toilet as well. After that there's technique. I am c…

Those wet wipes shouldn't be flushed down the down the toilet, even if they're labeled "flushable", here's a nice PDF infographic from the city of Los Angeles explaining why: https://sanitation.lacity.gov/san/sandocview?docname=cnt0365...

Re: The Rise of the Japanese Toilet

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Post by sublinear »

exhilaration wrote: post #36
sublinear wrote: post #35

I think paper is perfectly fine for most people who do not have certain medical problems, given a few prerequisites. The main one is diet. Eat enough fiber so it's not a mess in the first place. This has many other benefits too. The next in priority is wet wipes. I strongly prefer them, and they are portable unlike a bidet. They are super useful while away from the toilet as well. After that there's technique. I am c…

Those wet wipes shouldn't be flushed down the down the toilet, even if they're labeled "flushable", here's a nice PDF infographic from the city of Los Angeles explaining why: https://sanitation.lacity.gov/san/sandocview?docname=cnt0365...

It's a good thing not everyone lives in LA.

Re: The Rise of the Japanese Toilet

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Post by sublinear »

simfree wrote: post #30
mixmastamyk wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Power outlets are not allowed near water basins here and so are not installed into the wall near the toilet. Most often there’s only one outlet near the sink with a circuit breaker on an opposite wall. Heated is not necessary in California and more complexity means more likely to break, so YMMV.

You certainly can put a GFCI outlet adjacent a toilet, sink or in any other wet space. Please don't spread electrical code myths.

And yet most apartments don't have an outlet near the toilet.
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