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> While not defending OpenAI or Altman, the caveat here is that this was a voice actor using their natural voice, not an actor impersonating scarlett johansson. How do you know?
"Sky's voice is not an imitation of Scarlett Johansson but belongs to a different professional actress using her own natural speaking voice" https://www.npr.org/2024/05/20/1252495087/openai-pulls-ai-vo...
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This is simply not true. A voice actor doesn’t have to be skilled at changing their voice , especially in this context. Many are hired for their natural voice, like narration. When most film actors do voice acting, they’re just using their voice. They’re not hired for being chameleons.
That’s because film actors are hired to voice act for their fame, not for their skills as voice actors.
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I'm not sure you're aware of the ramifications of all of this, or else you just don't care. The voice acting industry is now entirely dead thanks to your opinions on this matter. Nobody is going to reach out to Liam Neeson for his voice, they'll just have some voice tool recreate it and read the script as long as the tool can recreate the same emotional tones they're looking for, and it's cheaper than hiring the actu…
Getting rid of AI so people can do the work instead is another incarnation of the fallacy of the broken window.
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If we're going to pillory Sam Altman, it's important to do it for the right reasons. That was not a good reason. I really should not need to defend this principle.
What reason do you suggest is more appropriate to “pillory Sam Altman”
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That makes it weird, but it doesn't (itself) mean they literally used her voice. It just means they were inspired by the movie. It's not illegal to be weird.
Legally they don’t need to have literally used her voice to have broken the law, never mind violating many people’s basic sense of what’s right and wrong.
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#326There are many people with voices similar to Scarlett Johansson's. If SJ is unwilling to be a voice actor for OpenAi, then why should OpenAI not find a similar voice and use that instead? SJ certainly does not have a monopoly on all voices similar to hers. Anyone in possession of such a voice has the same right as SJ to monetize it. And someone did in fact exercise that right. If you compare the Sky voice to SJ's, th…
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He strongly implied that it wasn’t an imitation.
We are talking about miohtama's argument, not Sam Altman. I don't believe Sam Altman, but I am interested in the general “is it legal/ethical to immitate something uncopyrightable” argument.
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He kind of ruined that argument when he tweeted “Her” alongside the video. Pretty clearly drawing a line between the voice and Johansson’s portrayal in the movie. Incredible, really. It would have been so easy to just… not do that.
Given: 1. The plot of "Her" (guy falls in love with synthesized voice, played by Johansson) 2. Altman's affinity for the film (the article says he's called it his "favorite movie") Reaching out to Johansson about cloning her voice, then doing so without permission feels like Altman is creeping on her. The sooner this bubble pops, the better.
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Speaking with your natural voice is not impersonating.
You should tell that to OpenAI, who are the ones selling it as "her".