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Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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post #190

I cannot wait to see Apple's response. While Microsoft announcement seems rush and products half backed/thought, there are on to something. I would hope Apple would learn from it, and find the right path. I would really like to have a AI companion that runs locally, on my dev laptop, tailored for my developer's needs. Something optimized for the hardware, and yet with tight privacy. Apple... your turn!

These don't run LLM locally

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled. There's the AI code assistant thing that github actually started, there's the horrible chatbot maker GUI demoware, there's AI stuff you might be able to do with your sharepoint (if only you could get hold of the right ms sales rep to take your money), there's an app that does genai things on your personal MS account... And now there's a Surface rebrand? That org chart…

I agree, and it's strange to see 'Copilot' everywhere. By the way, does anyone know how the development/update of GitHub Copilot is going? I tried to look for a blog from the engineering team or something similar, but I can't find anything.

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post #58

The only issue is that these all run Windows…bloated, annoying, privacy intrusive in-your-face OS

I cannot imagine building on Microsoft in 2024. They have aggressively thrown their weight around doing anti-consumer moves. These are the warning signs they don't need to care about their customers and can fully exploit their market monopoly. I still have ads after an update in windows 11 pro. Not to mention I have file explorer bugs and one note path hijacking annoyances. Legacy software is why we still use windows…

They’ve been doing this for over 30 years.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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post #268

The AI is the least interesting part of this announcement. Microsoft is giving ARM another try with a special branding that's supposed to guarantee some level of performance and quality. That's possibly huge news.

Exactly. They're now aggressively competing with Apple with supposedly better performance and better battery life. That's huge. Apple was years ahead with the introduction of the M1 but it appears competition has finally caught up. All of this has to be proven in real life though, but so far all the newly announced ARM devices [0] look like impressive MacBook competitors on their own. [0] So far it seems this are the…

AIUI the snapdragon x elite they’re based on benches between the M3 and M3 pro for CPU.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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post #148

Being the designated "tech" person for my extended family and friends circle, I don't think I could recommend this to any of them because of the privacy nightmare. At least with Apple you have a single vendor who is vertically integrated and makes a huge song and dance about data privacy. Even if you discount their PR and marketing spin, IMHO you are still miles ahead of the likes of Microsoft + (pick one) HP, Asus,…

The whole point of NPU-enabled devices is to run models locally, so they your data never leaves your device. This is a huge privacy win.

The whole point of enshittification is that companies don't need your data but they take it anyway.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled. There's the AI code assistant thing that github actually started, there's the horrible chatbot maker GUI demoware, there's AI stuff you might be able to do with your sharepoint (if only you could get hold of the right ms sales rep to take your money), there's an app that does genai things on your personal MS account... And now there's a Surface rebrand? That org chart…

The thing about Copilot is that outside of the developer niche, nobody knows the term. The vast majority of Microsoft's customer base will recognise neither the Xbox feature nor the Github product. In the same way, their .NET naming has never bothered anyone they actually care about selling stuff to. It's a tad annoying for developers, but nothing more than that. I find the way they renamed their Office products ever…

It's not a terrible name either. Assistant would be better, but they can't use that name[1] of course... I'm having a hard time thinking of something else that instantly communicates this idea of an intelligent subordinate aide that doesn't have negative associations.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_Assistant

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the official line from Microsoft would be that most software should be using .NET anyway, and in that case the same binary should Just Work on either architecture. In reality there is still a lot of native software though, so who knows how that will play out. Games in particular will always be native.

Does Microsoft even push or care about .net anymore? They seemed to move on after UWP and now that seems to be forgotten in focus of more web apps.

You have to understand that Windows comes from a separate division than .NET and they have no overlap. Microsoft isn't a cohesive company. .NET comes from the developer division (DevDiv) and UWP comes from the Windows division (now Server & Cloud). The Windows folks always hated .NET and the developer division has been lukewarm about UWP.

The Microsoft panel of this comic sums it up nicely: https://bonkersworld.net/organizational-charts

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled. There's the AI code assistant thing that github actually started, there's the horrible chatbot maker GUI demoware, there's AI stuff you might be able to do with your sharepoint (if only you could get hold of the right ms sales rep to take your money), there's an app that does genai things on your personal MS account... And now there's a Surface rebrand? That org chart…

> Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled. It’s Watson. Ha ha, only serious. You’re right. It feels like an umbrella brand they’re just tossing around, because AI — and Copilot in particular — is hot in Redmond. I find the new Copilot key funny, because it feels like a pantomime of the Windows 95 keys[0], but with Logitech characteristics. [*] Okay, it’s been 30 years. I haven’t used a Windows computer in al…

I use it a lot. Win and start typing to launch just about any app or open any document is really handy. Win and a number key launches or switches to that app pinned at that position on the taskbar. Win+L locks the screen whenever I get up from my desk. Win+Shift+S starts the screen clipper. Win+Left/Right snaps an app from one side to the other, win+shift+left/right switches between desktops, Win+Tab lets me drag apps from one desktop to another and see what's open where if needed, Win+E opens a new explorer window, Win+. opens the emoji keyboard. Those are just the ones I use almost every day, I probably use a few others a lot as well.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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post #272

> We set out to solve one of the most frustrating problems we encounter daily – finding something we know we have seen before on our PC. Today, we must remember what file folder it was stored in, what website it was on, or scroll through hundreds of emails trying to find it. It is indeed frustrating that one still cannot search effectively a local device, but it doesn't need AI to solve. It needs a proper search engi…

Anyone remember Google Desktop? Did the job perfectly 20 years ago.

It always baffles me how long it takes for Windows to search for a file while the GNU's `find` command churns through filenames and paths like it's nothing.

Re: Introducing Copilot+ PCs

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Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled. There's the AI code assistant thing that github actually started, there's the horrible chatbot maker GUI demoware, there's AI stuff you might be able to do with your sharepoint (if only you could get hold of the right ms sales rep to take your money), there's an app that does genai things on your personal MS account... And now there's a Surface rebrand? That org chart…

> Their "copilot" brand is so weird and... muddled.

Again the .NET effect, unsearcheable for decades. The COM[1] could be just bad luck.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Component_Object_Model

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