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Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

#321
While I dislike the tos change and don't use zoom u understand why there doing it. How else can they train a closed caption system like everyone else has? They need data for it. Transcripts are becoming a killer feature for me for meetings. I can understand why my dad couldn't type now, he had a secretary to transcribe everything. It's super efficient. I just pull jr devs or product into a meeting now turn on transcribe and we just talk through a problem. No one has to take notes we just talk and diagram. I started turning it on in war rooms as well. Every 30 minutes I stop the transcript and start a new one. A few minutes later I can share out the previous minutes to managers so they can get a detailed progress update. Better than typing really detailed things into slack, and better than an audio recording.

Edit: some people pointed out that whisper would do a good job with transcription but there's other things like tweaking the model which is essentially training it and there is things like building their own summarization systems that may be bespoke by customer. At my work we use some AI that answers HR and other types of questions that are kind of trained on our company specific questions and it actually does a great job but that does mean that we have to allow our data to be used for AI training. We're also using this system to do first tier tech support and some of our developer channels for very common questions and it works great because it finds those common questions and gets an answer before a human's even able to pay attention. Both of those approaches could be enabled by these terms of service changes

Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

#322

While I dislike the tos change and don't use zoom u understand why there doing it. How else can they train a closed caption system like everyone else has? They need data for it. Transcripts are becoming a killer feature for me for meetings. I can understand why my dad couldn't type now, he had a secretary to transcribe everything. It's super efficient. I just pull jr devs or product into a meeting now turn on transcr…

Can they just use the open source Whisper model?

Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

#323

And so begins the creation of digital doubles of the ordinary person.... Face to face meetings will be the only thing you can trust in future.

> Face to face meetings will be the only thing you can trust in future.

Except if you have a chip implanted.

Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

#324

Why not switch? I've had good experiences with competitors. I don't know if they're as nice for mass meetings instead of one-to-one or small groups, but at least for the chats I've had, there's never been any reason to go to Zoom. (I care more about spyware, privacy, and user sovereignty than AI training.)

There are situations where it is impossible to switch. For instance, practically all courts use Zoom for remote hearings. When I was in jail Zoom was used for remote visits.

That's so absurd. Whatever punishment might have been merited, it shouldn't include CCP spyware.

Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

#325

While I dislike the tos change and don't use zoom u understand why there doing it. How else can they train a closed caption system like everyone else has? They need data for it. Transcripts are becoming a killer feature for me for meetings. I can understand why my dad couldn't type now, he had a secretary to transcribe everything. It's super efficient. I just pull jr devs or product into a meeting now turn on transcr…

Just use whisper or any other open source speech to text system. They don’t need to built their own version

Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

#326
This is very much like the Black Mirror episode Joan Is Awful.

By using modern services we consent to our data, including our likeness, being used in any way the service can extract value from it. User data is such a gold mine that most services should be paying their users instead. Even giving the service away for "free" doesn't come close to making this a fair exchange.

Not to sound pessimistic, but we are already living in a dystopia, and it will only get much, much worse. Governments are way behind in regulating Big Tech, which in most cases they have no desire in since they're in a symbiotic relationship. It's FUBAR.

Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

#327

I am curious if they have been silently saving voice to text transcription in the background on all calls and if AI will be permitted to ingest all of that data. A great deal could be learned from private one on one calls in the corporate world. The insider knowledge one could gain about corporations and governments would be fascinating.

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Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

#328
post #298

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even china isnt silly enough to record people’s conversations to “train” ais. Corporate dictatorships have truly overtaken communist dictatorships.

> Even china isnt silly enough to record people’s conversations to “train” ais. China has a social credit score with facial recognition on their network of security cameras in public settings.... Recording peoples conversations to monitor for undesirable terms (likely with AI) is almost a certainty...

Correct, but they are not yet recording in order to augment their own citizens.

Re: Zoom terms now allow training AI on user content with no opt out

#330

You want to see a Zoom client that is utter broken trash? Look at the Linux flatpak. The scaling is completely broken, buttons are covered up, changing the size of the window results in bleed-through from underneath in parts but not others. Once a call is started if you maximize the window it will cut the other side's video in half. I am not a regular user of Zoom at all but I did install the flatpak to check it out.…

The Flatpak wrapper for Zoom is not made or endorsed by Zoom, Inc. as indicated in its description [1].

I am definitely not a fan of Zoom either and had my own issues with the Linux client, but if the problems you describe are unique to the Flatpak and not in the official Linux distribution, you can't blame Zoom for that.

[1] https://flathub.org/apps/us.zoom.Zoom

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