Developer tools to create spatial experiences for Apple Vision Pro

Post by throwaway2990 » Thu, Jun 22, 2023, 6:30 AM UTC

TheBrokenRail wrote: post #211

threeseed wrote: post #113

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New opportunities for abuse do exist with Vision Pro. If you allowed free reign access to the sensors people could record the inside of your house/work, capture your face, fingerprints, retinal pattern etc. And again with Objective-C it's impossible to prevent private API usage unless you have some sort of App Store model which can inspect the binaries and prevent abuse. So it's ultimately going to be the same as iOS…

> If you allowed free reign access to the sensors people could record the inside of your house/work, capture your face, fingerprints, retinal pattern etc. Yes, yes they could. That's not and shouldn't be Apple's problem. That's your workplace's problem to regulate how the device is used on-site, the government's problem to regulate how it can be used in public, your household's problem on how it can be used in privat…

Post by TuringTest » Thu, Jun 22, 2023, 6:36 AM UTC

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The point isn't paying to publish apps, the point is that you can't hack into it if this is anything like iOS. If this runs a version of iOS, we can't access the code that is running in it, we can't open a terminal, we can't use our programing language of choice. We can't use the actual device for building anything hacker related by itself. We can make apps for it using an actual PC made for building, but only if it…

You can definitely hack iOS all you want to, use private APIs, do all sorts of things that are against the App Store rules, run it on your own device and publish the code to GitHub to let other hackers compile it and run it from source. iPhone enthusiasts Stephen Hackett (his real name), hack into pre-release versions of iOS all of the time to see how it’s running from their computer. Even that 1986 6th grade hacker…

Post by dagmx » Thu, Jun 22, 2023, 6:43 AM UTC

withinboredom wrote: post #121

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There’s also nothing stopping some third party undercutting your app as well. I’m of the mind that it’s a risk worth taking , because it’s an opportunity that wouldn’t have presented itself otherwise

I meant once you become somewhat popular, it's got to be terrifying. Not necessarily that it's terrifying before you start. When you first start out, there's a billion things happening and this isn't one of them.

Post by codethief » Thu, Jun 22, 2023, 6:54 AM UTC

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This is all true but it can be a little bit of survivor ship bias at play. Look at all the technology conferences over the last 40 years and for the most part you will see a grave yard of tens of thousand of ideas that looks promising but ended up going nowhere - sometimes simply due to being out maneuvered business wise. Bill Gates once said that in some ways Microsoft was lucky to be as succesful as they where, tha…

>This is all true but it can be a little bit of survivor ship bias at play. Look at all the technology conferences over the last 40 years and for the most part you will see a grave yard of tens of thousand of ideas that looks promising but ended up going nowhere Survivor bias is real, but the interesting failures (in comparison to VR) are things like 3D TV. 3D TV has a very weak effect, the 3D effect is basically dis…

Post by Kiro » Thu, Jun 22, 2023, 6:55 AM UTC

withinboredom wrote: post #60

dagmx wrote: post #8

I'm very excited to see what people will be developing. The feedback from early press has been incredibly positive from just first party applications, but third party apps are where a lot of things will come up that Apple themselves likely haven't thought of.

> third party apps are where a lot of things will come up that Apple themselves likely haven't thought of. Until they sherlock it. Honestly, I'd be terrified to come up with something that became too popular in their app store.