React is holding me hostage

Post by rk06 » Wed, Mar 08, 2023, 1:49 PM UTC

wildrhythms wrote: post #269

fullstackchris wrote: post #208

I don't understand the animosity around useEffect. It executes a function based on a list of dependent variables. That's it. Once you understand that, its purpose becomes very clear. You don't want to rerender? Use useEffect with an empty array! Or don't use any state variables! You want to show something new to your customers / users without rerendering? Well sorry, that's impossible, regardless of any framework you…

I agree, and I'd like an anti-hooks person to explain their thoughts a bit more. My impression is that they believe useEffect inclines devs to cause side-effects in the component, quickly making the logic of a component difficult to follow- for example, a useEffect that sets a state that kicks off another useEffect that sets another state that kicks off another useEffect... But this problem existed before hooks: old…

Post by Illniyar » Wed, Mar 08, 2023, 1:50 PM UTC

Ciantic wrote: post #188

Illniyar wrote: post #132

I'm still a React guy. I've also worked with Angular and Vue and toyed with Svelte. People tend to compare these frameworks on things that don't matter - often it's performance. We used to compare React performance to AngularJs performance too, which was meaningless. VDom is nice. Reactivity in signals is nice. Limiting rerenders is nice. But I choose frameworks because of developer ergonomics. The killer feature for…

> When using React I usually just use MobX and everything just works. MobX is signals library. In other words, you are already using the signals way of doing things if you mostly manage your state with MobX. I still use MobX as well if I think I can't use SolidJS. SolidJs if you haven't looked has MobX-like tools built in, computed, autoruns and all the same tools, it triggers "renders" when one of the signals change…

  const CountingComponent = () => {
    const [count, setCount] = createSignal(0);
    const interval = setInterval(
      () => setCount(count => count + 1),
      1000
    );
    onCleanup(() => clearInterval(interval));
    if (count() % 2 == 0) {
      return Even count value is {count()};
    }
    return Odd count value is {count()};
  };

Post by Varqu » Wed, Mar 08, 2023, 1:51 PM UTC

Illniyar wrote: post #132

I'm still a React guy. I've also worked with Angular and Vue and toyed with Svelte. People tend to compare these frameworks on things that don't matter - often it's performance. We used to compare React performance to AngularJs performance too, which was meaningless. VDom is nice. Reactivity in signals is nice. Limiting rerenders is nice. But I choose frameworks because of developer ergonomics. The killer feature for…

Post by TheMagicHorsey » Wed, Mar 08, 2023, 1:54 PM UTC

Post by bsenftner » Wed, Mar 08, 2023, 1:56 PM UTC

jongjong wrote: post #284

I never understood why React became so popular. I thought it was a kind of mass hysteria. I was exposed to a broad range of front end frameworks early in my career (Backbone, SproutCore, JavaScriptMVC/CanJS, AngularJS), one of my colleagues was experimenting with Google's PolymerJS and recommended it. After trying it out, I was blown away by its elegance and simplicity. Yet somehow it never caught on. When React came…