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Post by kube-system »

Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #123
sgarman wrote: post #103

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I can't believe I'm saying this but now that all my devices charge via usb-c I don't actually want magsafe that much now I can bring one cable and change all my portables and mac + razer laptops. Not worth it for me to lug around another cable just for magsafe.

The best of both worlds would probably be a magnetically detachable USB-C cable. There are such cables out there but they have very very bad quality, at least those few I've tried.

That's what the new magsafe cable basically is. A magnetic USB-C cable that (probably) isn't garbage quality.

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Post by ShadonototraCD »

zamalek wrote: post #134
Shadonototra wrote: post #13

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How do you provide fanless laptop, and extended battery life if you don't care about maximizing performance while maintaining ultra low power usage? That is why nobody buys windows based laptops anymore and the macbook air is the best selling laptop you don't need apple marketing team to see how people are fed-up with hot windows laptops and their noisy fans (and blind btw, pun intended or maybe not lol)

> fanless laptop See also: "how do you provide ever thinner laptops?" The reason you're so sensitive to fans is because Apple's attention to cooling goes far, far, beyond a joke. Modern processors will throttle at their maximum temperature (typically 100C for CPUs). Apple's approach has always been to depend on that as a cooling solution. People have improved the cooling on the M1 to something in the ballpark of the…

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Post by jamiek88 »

speed_spread wrote: post #213
kristiandupont wrote: post #175

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Everything about it or the developer experience? I use a VM for my dev work and then run the rest (which pretty much means "a browser", these days) in MacOS. Which works perfectly.

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I personally don’t understand the whole concept of ‘hating’ someone else’s personal choice of OS.

I mean if the government mandated MacOS maybe you’d have a mature point instead of an infantile rant.

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Post by [deleted] »

dt3ft wrote: post #42
api wrote: post #14

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It's worse than that. They're busy turning off their users with dark patterns, terrible UX, ads and spam in the OS, and endless amounts of unnecessary telemetry.

I just had to hack/patch windows 11 in order to bring back "never combine taskbar windows" functionality which existed in windows 10. I am strongly considering switching over at this point. Removal of "never combine" is such a productivity kill that it baffles me how this thing rolled out at all. Who took over the wheel over at Microsoft and who left, that made this major breaking change take place?

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Post by joakleaf »

ntoskrnl wrote: post #200
beckingz wrote: post #5

"M2 takes the industry-leading performance per watt of M1 even further with an 18 percent faster CPU, a 35 percent more powerful GPU, and a 40 percent faster Neural Engine" 18% faster at the same performance per watt is a nice increase. Interesting to see if this will ever make it to their desktop computers.

The 18% is for multithreaded workloads. Have they said anything about single core perf yet?

No they didn't reveal single core performance.

It is commonly assumed that M1 shares high performance Firestorm cores with A14.

It looks like Geekbench scores for A15 over A14 is about 18% in multithreaded, and 10% in single thread.

It is also very likely that the M2 uses the same Avalanche cores as in A15. So I would suspect that this translates to a 10% increase in single threaded performance between M2 and M1 as well.

Incidentally, A15 runs at around 3.2 Ghz vs 3 Ghz for A14. So the majority of the speed-up between A14 and A15 comes directly from increasing clock frequency. M1 runs at 3.2 Ghz.

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Post by culopatin »

yieldcrv wrote: post #196
haunter wrote: post #163

I'll switch once I can play my full Steam library on a machine like this. The power is there for sure.

I'm only a very casual gamer these days (although anyone I go on a date with would only see a gaming accessory or console and immediately think hardcore), I recently went down the gaming rabbithole to see what I can do with my M1. It seems like MacOS on M1 architecture can play almost everything! Like, there are so many titles that don't have OSX listed as ever being released for, but it can either be played out the…

Can you expand on “almost everything” and what you do to achieve that?

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Post by duped »

freedomben wrote: post #273
Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #52

All i want is a laptop with similar build quality, battery life, and Ubuntu.

I really think that's what the Framework will be in a couple of years. I use one now and it's pretty great, but does have a few (totally acceptable to me) rough edges that they're working on.

As a framework owner, there's maybe two orders of magnitude difference in build quality between a mac and a framework.

The track pad and display suck for a laptop in 2022. The display has issues with calibration and resolution (understandable from where they're at right now, but still it's trash compared to an XPS or MB). The trackpad has mechanical issues that cause it to wiggle, its been reported on the forum (and personally to staff a few times) but they don't seem to have a decent way to fix it.

Its been a nightmare calibrating the touchpad to my liking, on my XPS and Macbook it has always "just worked" (even on Linux!)

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Post by theodric »

furyg3 wrote: post #268
edgefield wrote: post #228

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100% agree. The last generation of MacBook pros with intel processors were virtually unusable for zoom calls or any intensive processing power tasks.

This is downvoted, but my intel MacBook Pro (maxed out specs) from 2015 really was dying on zoom / MS teams calls. Probably says a lot about those two apps, but this was one of the main reasons I upgraded to an M1 Mac during corona.

Yeah, same, that's why I resorted to water-cooling :) https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/so-i-water-cooled-my-ma...

It's pretty much silent now, even with the CPU governor pegged to max.

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Post by joakleaf »

cehrlich wrote: post #91
swyx wrote: post #63

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can anyone knowledgeable please oblige us with a comparison?

M2 will be faster in single core, M1 Pro will be faster in multi core. Taking Apple's 20% claim at face value: Geekbench Single Core - M1, M1 Pro: 1700, M2: 2040 Geekbench Multi Core - M1: 7700, M1 Pro 8-core: 9000, M2: 9200, M1 Pro 10-core: 12400 Of course we'll see M2 Pro/Max sooner or later, which will presumably match M2 on single core just like the previous gen.

Apple's 20% was for multi-core.

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Post by [deleted] »

mnholt wrote: post #293
freedomben wrote: post #273

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I really think that's what the Framework will be in a couple of years. I use one now and it's pretty great, but does have a few (totally acceptable to me) rough edges that they're working on.

I don’t mean to discredit Framework in the slightest but they are still leagues away from Apple when it comes to build quality. The entire industry struggles to match Apple’s fit and finish, it will be an uphill battle for a hardware based startup. I do hope they succeed.

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