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Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by jb1991 »

tinus_hn wrote: post #262
KerrAvon wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really. On macOS, trackpad swipes produce a series of horizontal scroll events, not a simple back/forward event. An app can do whatever it wants with the scroll events. Safari, when the scroll position is at the end of the horizontal outer edge of the document, does an interactive back/forward animation that tracks your fingers while they remain on the trackpad.

As far as I know you’re supposed to use the NSGestureRecognizer system to recognize this kind of gestures and it’ll automatically make it work like you write. If you try to handle all the events yourself you end up doing a lot of work for probably a worse result.

You are correct.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by ccouzens »

smoldesu wrote: post #193
eitland wrote: post #158

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Mac differs between switching windows and applications. So if you work in an IDE, keep reading docs in one Firefox window and test your application in another Firefox window then in KDE or XFCE or another sane windowing system[1] - even Windows - you just use alt - tab. On Mac you have to stop an think: Should I switch to another browser Window? Ok, that is CMD - backtick. Switch to or from IDE? That is CMD - tab. Pr…

> but starting with Unity and now also Gnome has copied this to be bug comptible with Mac This is simultaneously one of the saddest and funniest things I've read about GNOME in a while (which has a surprisingly high bar on both accounts)

Here's how to fix it in Gnome :)

Settings -> Keyboard -> View and Customize Shortcuts -> Switch windows -> Alt + Tab

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by unixhero »

askvictor wrote: post #99
im_down_w_otp wrote: post #53

All I want in life is a Linux distro with a package repo full of meticulously reworked & reconfigured packages that make all the keyboard shortcuts across the entire system and every application be like and be as consistent as my old Macs. I've been full-time Linux (Kubuntu) for a few years now, and I've hobbled together something that only irritates me to death about 30% of the time rather than the 100% of the time…

Having recently moved back to Linux (PopOS) from Windows, the one biggest annoyance is not being able to configure two-finger touchpad swipe to be browser back/forward. This is the default in Mac, easily configurable in Windows (perhaps it's the default?), and default in ChromeOS. But simply not an option in any Linux I've tried. The Epiphany Browser does it, but that lacks extension support so is a no-go for me. Any…

Really? You cannot use an exciting OS without pinching movements?

It is not the first time I hear this, so this OSX feature must be truly addictive & productive.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by doix »

toastal wrote: post #260
criddell wrote: post #253

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My point is that if I’m a gamer, I may not be a fan of Windows any more than I’m a fan of Seagate hard drives or Comcast internet. It’s just another bit of infrastructure that I need to do what I actually want to do - play games.

If you don't do online multiplayer, it pretty easy to be happy with Linux. Pick up something DRM-free on GoG or if you're a Steam user, many indie games are native as are Feral AAA and then there's Proton. If it doesn't work natively or through Proton, I just press the refund button on Steam because there's a lot of games out there that do work with my setup that it's not worth losing sleep over a handful of games.

I was shocked at how good Proton was. I accidentally became a digital nomad (went on holiday, couldn't come home due to covid restrictions, decided to never come back) and have been without my gaming desktop for months now. Age of Empires 4 came out and I really wanted to play it, so I gave steam + proton a shot. It actually worked, a AAA game released this year worked without much tweaking, I just had to get proton_ge[0]. I assume that mainline proton has caught up, so if you tried to play AoE4 on Linux today, it'll probably "just work".

[0] https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/proton-ge-custom

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by ccouzens »

ccouzens wrote: post #322
smoldesu wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but starting with Unity and now also Gnome has copied this to be bug comptible with Mac This is simultaneously one of the saddest and funniest things I've read about GNOME in a while (which has a surprisingly high bar on both accounts)

Here's how to fix it in Gnome :) Settings -> Keyboard -> View and Customize Shortcuts -> Switch windows -> Alt + Tab

And for completeness, on the command line

gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-windows "['Tab']"

gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-windows-backward "['Tab']"

gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-applications "[]"

gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings switch-applications-backward "[]"

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by hazn »

unixhero wrote: post #323
askvictor wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having recently moved back to Linux (PopOS) from Windows, the one biggest annoyance is not being able to configure two-finger touchpad swipe to be browser back/forward. This is the default in Mac, easily configurable in Windows (perhaps it's the default?), and default in ChromeOS. But simply not an option in any Linux I've tried. The Epiphany Browser does it, but that lacks extension support so is a no-go for me. Any…

Really? You cannot use an exciting OS without pinching movements? It is not the first time I hear this, so this OSX feature must be truly addictive & productive.

This thread has a special focus on switching the operating system from macOS to Pop_OS. In this context, mentioning missing features between the operating systems is valid.

I don’t really like the snide nature of your comment, people care a lot about things like trackpad functionalities. Objectively, unix has been lacking in this department.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by 29jm »

askvictor wrote: post #99
im_down_w_otp wrote: post #53

All I want in life is a Linux distro with a package repo full of meticulously reworked & reconfigured packages that make all the keyboard shortcuts across the entire system and every application be like and be as consistent as my old Macs. I've been full-time Linux (Kubuntu) for a few years now, and I've hobbled together something that only irritates me to death about 30% of the time rather than the 100% of the time…

Having recently moved back to Linux (PopOS) from Windows, the one biggest annoyance is not being able to configure two-finger touchpad swipe to be browser back/forward. This is the default in Mac, easily configurable in Windows (perhaps it's the default?), and default in ChromeOS. But simply not an option in any Linux I've tried. The Epiphany Browser does it, but that lacks extension support so is a no-go for me. Any…

For what it's worth I've been using libinput-gestures in combination with xdotool for exactly this purpose, it's been working great for a while.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by parsadotsh »

hazn wrote: post #326
unixhero wrote: post #323

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? You cannot use an exciting OS without pinching movements? It is not the first time I hear this, so this OSX feature must be truly addictive & productive.

This thread has a special focus on switching the operating system from macOS to Pop_OS. In this context, mentioning missing features between the operating systems is valid. I don’t really like the snide nature of your comment, people care a lot about things like trackpad functionalities. Objectively, unix has been lacking in this department.

It doesn't necessarily read as snide.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by ccouzens »

boplicity wrote: post #139
taeric wrote: post #116

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I find this funny, in that I struggle with Mac all the time. The worst grievance lately is that I don't know how to just pop back and forth between three windows. Something about the way command tab works just kills my ability to reason about what the window stack currently is. And, for the life of me, I never get copy paste from a terminal to work like I want it to.

Make your desired windows fullscreen, then swipe side to side on the trackpad (3 or 4 fingers) to switch between them almost instantly. One of the best features of MacOS, IMO.

But it doesn't work so well if you prefer to use a conventional external mouse.

I was stuck using the shortcuts (ctrl + left or right arrow key), or clicking the Mission Control button I had to pin to the Dock.

Re: Switching from macOS to Pop_OS

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Post by skinnymuch »

GekkePrutser wrote: post #59
criddell wrote: post #21

I guess I don't get how operating systems are still something that people have such strong opinions on. All of the major operating systems are good enough or can be made good enough by installing a few packages. Pop may be great, but it's useless if you need to run Final Cut Pro. macOS is wonderful, but not if you want to play a lot of AAA games. Windows is fine, but if you are doing a lot of Ruby on Rails you may ha…

It's all about what you want in an OS. MacOS for example is very much one size fits all. For someone like me who wants to tune the nuts and bolts of the system is frustrating. Windows is better at this and Linux of course shines depending on which distro you pick. I consider each distro its own OS. For the same reason gnome doesn't work for me (and thus PopOS doesn't) but KDE and i3 do. But other people have other pr…

genuinely asking, what sort of tuning do Windows and Linux have that Mac doesn’t? I’m sure it will be obvious once I’m given examples, but for now I don’t get it.

From what you’ve said, gnome and kde is something. From my limited experience with them, the major difference that Mac can’t do is the menu bar or Windows style bottom bar as different options. Mac does stick with the top menu bar as something always there (though you can hide it in newer versions). Most other things can be customized in Mac as well. A lot may require 3rd party apps on Mac to achieve though.

I’ve had multiple Mac users have a hard time using my main Mac because of how I’ve customized it to my liking.

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