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Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by marcodiego »

gruez wrote: post #294
marcodiego wrote: post #287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So how to you explain the complete lack of recording features on TV sets that support streaming services?

The complete lack of recording features? I can't comment about brazil because I don't like there, but in the US they're pretty popular, to the point that cable providers even advertise it as a feature, eg. https://www.xfinity.com/learn/digital-cable-tv/x1 (search for "DVR")

Hmmm... Actually I don't think I made myself clear enough. When I said "record" I meant "unencrypted record to external media".

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by tomc1985 »

srg0 wrote: post #305
tomc1985 wrote: post #219

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I think you are holding far too strict a definition of the word related to "transmission". If I am prevented from reading data I want to read, because some entity has decided they don't want me to read it, how is that not censorship? Also, where are you even getting that defintion anyway? Looking up nearly every form of the word 'censor' I can think of, nothing speaks specifically to the transmission of ideas. Rather…

Come on, whitelist the folder where you keep your keygens, and windows defender won't interfere. "Censorship, the changing or the suppression or prohibition of speech or writing that is deemed subversive of the common good" (Britannica). Voluntarily enabling a program to filter incoming data for personal convenience and safety is the opposite of the censorship. Like following self-imposed rules and restrictions is no…

That will work... until you plug that drive into a fresh OS. Or you reformat and forget to unplug the drive before you set up the whitelist. Or it's spotted on a network drive by another PC running Windows Defender.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by josephcsible »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #320
josephcsible wrote: post #140

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Defender working this way by default is a ‘big daddy policing decision’. The default should be to not do this, and people that want it should have to enable it via Group Policy.

Are you saying that insecure by default is a good idea? Defender enabled by default would save billions annually, and not just from businesses but also grandma who’s entire photo collection just got ransomware’d. That big daddy policing move was the single best action taken by Microsoft.

I'm not saying that Defender should be disabled by default. I'm saying that it shouldn't flag BitTorrent clients by default.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by biryani_chicken »

zabatuvajdka wrote: post #108
thunderbong wrote: post #85

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This happened to me as well. Even when those keygens were in zipped files, Defender would flag them as malware and remove them automatically. The only solution I found to this was to keep the keygens in a password protected zipped files.

Interesting ideas here: how antivirus becomes a form of censorship. Maybe that’s an extreme view but it feels like now that Microsoft supplies it’s own defender app. And like all forms of martial law beginning as a way to protect citizens! I also noticed that with win10 when apps crash it sends the data to Microsoft—as though they can fix 3rd party apps for us. Yeesh. I think I’ll skip out on Windows 11 TYVM.

Few days ago it flagged a test binary from Ghidra: https://github.com/NationalSecurityAgency/ghidra/issues/3160

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by tgsovlerkhgsel »

criddell wrote: post #96
dtx1 wrote: post #51

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I basically do the same thing. Why bother figuring out how to run Netflix with DRM on Linux and pay for the pleaser of a subpar libary when my little Raspberry Pi Seedbox, a 5$/Month VPN and Membership in a private Tracker gets me everything I want without the hassle or annoying DRM to deal with. But we are not the ones that will be hit by this. It's the normies and computer illiterates that will have to deal with th…

> Why bother figuring out how to run Netflix with DRM on Linux Because you want to pay for things. You want to support people making the things you enjoy. You want Netflix and other streaming companies to see that Linux users matter.

You don't do that by paying them for _not_ working on your platform.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by renonce »

I hate all antivirus software and always try to disable them as soon as I can. They enforce their own values and ideology, and they do terrible at respecting users.

Once I had to do disk imaging on a very slow drive. After the imaging was 10% done, it complained that one of the files contained a malware and aborted. I found that it was Windows Defender that was blocking access to one of the files, so I went to Settings and turned off Real-Time Protection, and did disk imaging again. This time the imaging was 80% done before it aborted. The Real-Time Protection turned itself on because it reached time limit. F**k you, Windows Defender. It took me another four hours to find out how to disable it completely because neither registry keys and group policy worked, and its service can't even be turned off. I had to use a third-party tool called dControl to turn it off completely. And interestingly, dControl was flagged by Windows Defender as malware (for the apparent reason that it was designed to disable Windows Defender).

Modern approach to protecting computer systems is to design software that is already secure and isolate programs using privileges and sandboxes. NO antivirus, please, they're just bad because they're a blackbox, and all blackboxes are destined to be bad.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by tgsovlerkhgsel »

ethbr0 wrote: post #59
cpach wrote: post #46

Any qBittorrent users on Windows who can verify that the issue described actually still persists?

Submitter here. Can confirm. Defender uninstalled it on a random Windows box of mine today (7/26/2021). Windows 10 Pro. Version 2004 Build 19041.1110. Windows Defender updated today (7/26/2021). Hence the curiousity and submission.

> Windows 10 Pro

This is particularly concerning given the claims that this is only supposed to affect Enterprise versions.

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Post by ptman »

magicalhippo wrote: post #177
kozak wrote: post #121

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I anticipated this question :) No, it was just a plain Windows form, built from scratch using a then-popular Windows IDE. I think it was mostly triggered by the file name, maybe in combination with some crypto code inside.

> using a then-popular Windows IDE If you're referring to Delphi, this has been a common issue for a long time. Delphi seems to have been very popular with malware writers, and so AV companies keep flagging stuff from the standard libraries as malware. Got so bad at one time that some tried to get a deal with the major AV players to provide a suite of very basic Delphi applications they could use for false-positive t…

Delphi produced (produces?) quite small executables, which was very desirable for malware writers.

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Post by httpsterio »

jacobr1 wrote: post #273
crazygringo wrote: post #225

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No, it depends on the intent . If the intent is to prevent the transmission of ideas, then yes it's censorship. If the intent is to protect from harm -- totally unconnected to ideas -- then no it's not censorship. The reason Defender deletes keygens is that they're statistically associated with malware and viruses, as any Google search will terrifyingly immediately reveal. It clearly is falling under the "protect fro…

Isn't the stated intent of most censorship to protect from harm?

Stated intent maybe yes, but that's only optics. Censorship is just meant to preserve the powers in control, be they good or bad.

Re: Windows Defender blocks qBittorrent

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Post by httpsterio »

tomc1985 wrote: post #322
srg0 wrote: post #305

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Come on, whitelist the folder where you keep your keygens, and windows defender won't interfere. "Censorship, the changing or the suppression or prohibition of speech or writing that is deemed subversive of the common good" (Britannica). Voluntarily enabling a program to filter incoming data for personal convenience and safety is the opposite of the censorship. Like following self-imposed rules and restrictions is no…

That will work... until you plug that drive into a fresh OS. Or you reformat and forget to unplug the drive before you set up the whitelist. Or it's spotted on a network drive by another PC running Windows Defender.

The filesaä are quarantined, not removed. You can restore them on the other OS as well.
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