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Windows 11 will create heaps of needless trash

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Re: Windows 11 will create heaps of needless trash

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I believe the patches are all community sourced. They tend to be well made but they're not something the average consumer would use. It's hit or miss as to whether they work with your particular model.

I think the patches are Apple’s security updates, not a community OS hackintosh thing

No, you are mistaken, the patches are prepared by dosdude1 (who should receive a medal for saving the planet a lot of e-waste from Apple products).

Re: Windows 11 will create heaps of needless trash

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Microsoft is late to the party here. This has been core to Apple's business model for years. Here's an example of OS support for the MacBook Air: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Air#Supported_macOS_re... The arbitrary cadence of abandonment is amazingly consistent and has no basis in hardware capabilities.

That's true, but if you compare the resale value of PCs and MacBooks, you'll find that MacBooks(even with outdated OS) have higher resale value. Therefore, this is a bit of a tricky situtation for PCs since they can't be sold for much.

It's a tricky issue. Supposed I want to buy an used MacBook now, for a good price and still running the newest macOS. I'll find lots of 4GB or 8GB MacBooks from 2015 for example that can't be upgraded. Or... I could move back to 2012 and upgrade RAM to 16 GB and insert 2TB SSDs. 4GB MacBooks are practically unusable for any non-trival task so that fact that you can run the newest OS and enjoy security updates means very little if you can't do any real work.

Re: Windows 11 will create heaps of needless trash

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I just hope that some of that needless trash enters the secondary market rather than going directly to recyclers. First of all because Win10 will stay useful for most people for quite some time yet, second because these boxes/laptops make great Linux machines!

I for one would take a Ryzen 1st gen out of the trash! I would absolutely use those "trash" machines, and I really hope to see prices go to the ground.

Re: Windows 11 will create heaps of needless trash

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Even the most die-had MS user is not excited about Windows and hasn't been for the last decade. Operating systems are finished products at this point.

People say this all the time, but it certainly isn't true. I for one, I am excited about Windows 11 because its finally things coming together. 64bit only, dropping old cruft, making the UI consistent/cleaner.. If you like tech/gaming - there is a lot to be excited about. PC and Console gaming with Game pass ultimate is a hell of a deal... Plus WSLg, Android apps ... i mean come on, its pretty f'n cool.

Game pass already works on Windows 10. It's not in any way a plausible Windows 11 feature.

Re: Windows 11 will create heaps of needless trash

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That wouldn’t work if the person’s computer doesn’t support Windows 11, though, which is the entire argument the blog post is making. That because windows 11 won’t work people will just throw away their computers and create more electronic waste.

"computer locked, you need to buy a new one to keep enjoying our stuff"

I think at the end of the day, they are happier with an illegitimate Windows user, than a non-Windows user. They'll nag, push, try everything to annoy, but they won't lock you out completely, because that could mean losing you for good.

Of course, I can only infer this from their past behavior.

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I will once again register my hope that this causes at least a significant portion of windows subscribers to consider non-proprietary alternatives. Linux distros are fundamentally more useful computer systems, open source communities have done dizzying amounts of work to produce mostly-working interop with windows-exclusive software, as well as numerous FOSS alternatives to popular products. I'm not going to lie and…

PC Gaming is still windows main advantage. There is wine, but how does it compare for performance? Plus Nvidia's drivers are still a mixed bag?

Plus anti-cheat will remain a impediment.

Re: Windows 11 will create heaps of needless trash

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People say this all the time, but it certainly isn't true. I for one, I am excited about Windows 11 because its finally things coming together. 64bit only, dropping old cruft, making the UI consistent/cleaner.. If you like tech/gaming - there is a lot to be excited about. PC and Console gaming with Game pass ultimate is a hell of a deal... Plus WSLg, Android apps ... i mean come on, its pretty f'n cool.

Game pass already works on Windows 10. It's not in any way a plausible Windows 11 feature.

It is when the store experience is much improved and the performance is better because all the old !64bit cruft is removed.

Re: Windows 11 will create heaps of needless trash

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People say this all the time, but it certainly isn't true. I for one, I am excited about Windows 11 because its finally things coming together. 64bit only, dropping old cruft, making the UI consistent/cleaner.. If you like tech/gaming - there is a lot to be excited about. PC and Console gaming with Game pass ultimate is a hell of a deal... Plus WSLg, Android apps ... i mean come on, its pretty f'n cool.

None of those things are changing the daily use habits and the usability of an OS that I've been using to do the exact same things for the past 20 years. The internal cleanup is great; good for them, but it doesn't map out to any subtantial change in the apps you're using. The UI, thanks for it being clean, but as far as I'm concerned everything after Windows 7 has not improved desktop app usability much if anything.…

Ok, so for you, stay with windows 10. I don't see what the problem is. It's supported until 2025 at least.

Re: Windows 11 will create heaps of needless trash

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TPM 2.0 isn't supported on your chipset.

Yes it is. It's enabled in the firmware (fTPM) and shows TPM 2.0 available in the tpm.msc snap-in.

Dunno then, ask your motherboard vendor why it's not supported.
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