Even 2 year old $1-$2k 18 core 9980XE's aren't compatible. That's crazy.
Windows 11 will create heaps of needless trash
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#232To think that all of this Microsoft bullshit could be the propeller for Linux adoption, if only Linux developers had good taste and had developed something worthy of replacing Windows for the average user.
What an utter weird comment. I've been using both OS-es, and gnome on Linux is miles ahead of windows in terms of UX and general usability. Windows feels clunky, there are always two ways to configure any one thing. The only thing that is better on Windows is certain software availability, which has very little to do with Windows itself. People really think Linux is a bad experience, when it hasn't been true for the past 5 years.
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#233Microsoft has spent a ton of time lately bolstering their green credentials--such as this recent pledge to be carbon negative by 2030. https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2020/01/16/microsoft-will-b... But then they show that those pledges are all windows dressing when it comes to obsoleting perfectly acceptable computers with Windows 11...
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#234I wonder how many will be convinced to install Linux, especially given the increasing move for Operating Systems as a browser shim.
I remember reading some blog posts from people switching to Linux because they disliked Windows 10 for various reasons (mostly privacy concerns and forced updates), but I think those were fairly tech savvy already. Most people will just use whatever Microsoft releases, either because it comes preinstalled on their PC, because it's what they know, or because they need Windows because of some application or piece of ha…
Me too! September 2021 marks my 20th year.
It and all of FOSS have brought me more joy than I can ever repay.
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#235Earlier quoted context omitted.
I left my laptop, that ran Windows 7, running for a couple of hours, and came back to see a notification that says welcome to Windows 10.
Not sure how that’s relevant to someone who can’t upgrade because of unsupported hardware. You can’t get autoupgraded to an OS your hardware doesn’t support. And most such people would happily continue using Windows 10 without caring (or knowing, most likely)
The fact you can get auto upgraded from 7 to 10 at all is concerning
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#236This is going to kill adoption of the new gaming features. I am really excited for Direct Storage on windows, but what incentive do the developers have to support it if only a small subset of their users have machines new enough to run it. This is exactly the same as the DirectX 10 disaster on Vista. It took a long time for developers to switch from 9 to 10. Most skipped 10 for 11 because it had the same windows supp…
Maybe I'm getting old, but it's mental to me that a regular SDD over SATA3 is now regarded as slow , and you need an NVME SSD to run things quickly. I have a gaming PC and really can't tell the difference between games loaded between the two.
That’s because games aren’t designed to take advantage of NVME drives. Direct storage basically connects the ssd to the gpu for fast asset streaming. You will notice when games made for the Xbox get ported to windows 11. It’s seriously an amazing leap in game technology.
Re: Windows 11 will create heaps of needless trash
#237This is going to kill adoption of the new gaming features. I am really excited for Direct Storage on windows, but what incentive do the developers have to support it if only a small subset of their users have machines new enough to run it. This is exactly the same as the DirectX 10 disaster on Vista. It took a long time for developers to switch from 9 to 10. Most skipped 10 for 11 because it had the same windows supp…
I think it's going to be a little bit more challenging as the consoles are ahead with the storage capabilities as a baseline. Back in 2006 the consoles were (roughly) DX9 levels, so there wasn't really much incentive to push ahead unless your studio was a trailblazer. Now studios making games need to think on which audience they prioritize. To a certain extent I anticipate it could be "a storm in a teacup", the new c…
It will make games like cyberpunk run faster. Their world streamer is a chugger.
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#238Microsoft is late to the party here. This has been core to Apple's business model for years. Here's an example of OS support for the MacBook Air: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacBook_Air#Supported_macOS_re... The arbitrary cadence of abandonment is amazingly consistent and has no basis in hardware capabilities.
Based on that article, every MacBook Air released since 2008 will receive a patch update and every MacBook Air released since 2015 will support OSX Monterey. Is that not reasonable?
I believe the patches are all community sourced. They tend to be well made but they're not something the average consumer would use. It's hit or miss as to whether they work with your particular model.
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#239I don't believe there is a shortage, when only few companies have a strong hold on their supply.
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#240Earlier quoted context omitted.
Security fixes and support.
You still get 4 years with 10. The Intel 8th gneration was introduced in 2017. So people who bought a computer in 2016 can still push it to ~9 years of service life, which is pretty good for an average Windows computer if they manage to do it. I imagine your average Windows consumer will have replaced a computer once already in that span once all the installed crap has stalled the computer to inoperable speeds. This…
New Thinkpads in 2017 (T470/X270/etc.) were still using 7th generation Intel chips, so it is for some users a forced update after eight years.
That said, people have hacked the leaked OEM version of Windows 11 to install on to 2010 or 2011 vintage computers, so there’s a reasonable chance Microsoft will not make 2018 era computers a hard cutoff for Windows 11 installs. Even if they do, there will probably be workarounds around allowing it to be installed it on Kaby Lake and older CPUs; we know right now Windows 11 will install on an older computer without significant issue (with some hacking, depending on just how old the computer is).
For the record, I find the three year lifecycle for Android phones very annoying. I may have my next phone be an iPhone (they can have 5-6 year support lifetimes, if I get a brand new model when it comes out) or hope the Fairphone becomes available in the US.