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Re: The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media

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Post by js212 » Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 10:22 PM UTC

guerrilla wrote: post #295

maybelsyrup wrote: post #161

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> As long as [...], any talk about a two state solution is a joke It sucks to have to say, but no one in any position of power on any side of this conflict believes a two-state solution is possible anymore. That ship sailed a decade ago or so, depending on who you ask, and all of the players have moved on; it's only parts of the public who still believe it's possible. It may still be desirable, of course - I certainl…

Why do you think it's not possible for the settlers to leave the West Bank? They did from Gaza.

It did not go well after they left Gaza. Hamas was elected soon after. I am sure this comes into the calculation.

Re: The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media

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Post by rudnevr » Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 3:42 AM UTC

js212 wrote: post #319

jgb1984 wrote: post #258

Israel is an apartheid state. Stealing land and declaring a "jewish state" is no less criminal or insane than what isis / islamic state tried to do. Anti-zionism is not equal to anti-semitism. Just like I can criticize the USA without hating Americans, or criticize Iran without discriminating against muslims.

Name me one land in all of history that has not been stolen or conquered? Also, could LGTBQ individuals live in Islamic State (or even Gaza or the West Bank!)? Btw, you made claims of apartheid but offered 0 arguments in support of your position.

"Israel is apartheid state" is a very old thesis which the left hoping to apply to Israel after their South Africa success. There's nothing in support of it in terms of law, though. It doesn't even work as libel anymore. Just a marker phrase for antisemitism.

Re: The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media

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Post by rudnevr » Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 3:48 AM UTC

user982 wrote: post #227

aaronchall wrote: post #189

I know many users have flagged this because moderator, dang, has turned off the flags for this post. I'm sure it would be off the front page by now if he had not. I also know that after some period of relative peace, the Palestinian people allowed over (conservatively) 3,000 rockets to be fired on Israel by their militias, injuring over (conservatively) 100 and killing 10 (as reported by the Associated Press). To me…

> I also know that after some period of relative peace, the Palestinian people allowed over (conservatively) 3,000 rockets to be fired on Israel by their militias, injuring over (conservatively) 100 and killing 10 (as reported by the Associated Press). Why, after some period of relative peace, did the Palestinian people suddenly "allow" rockets to be fired on Israel? Were there any proximate causes which they were re…

The major reason was the elections in the West Bank, which threatened to shake Fatah domination there, and a change in US policy (Biden expected to be softer on Arabs than Trump). The violence propaganda started on TikTok weeks before the conflict. The Hamas's goal once in several years to exercise power, get international intention and get more funds to live. That's how they do many years already.

Re: The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media

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Post by justanotherguy0 » Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 11:56 AM UTC

glogla wrote: post #226

justanotherguy0 wrote: post #205

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Why not? Who cares? Like he said, this is far from the worst conflict going on right now and it receives a disproportionate amount of interest. I don't care about the conflict in china or in Yemen or in syria. Because I'm a coherent person, I also don't care about what's happening in israel.

Because being proud of lack of empathy and just ... humanity is pretty fucked up?

Everything you hear and see about the wider world is because somebody else with much more power than you decided you should.

By letting them decide what you care about, you've delegated your decision-making.

I think that's fucked up.

Also everything the other commenter said is right.

Re: The blackout Palestinians are facing on social media

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Post by tinyhouse » Wed, Jun 30, 2021, 7:27 PM UTC

wolverine876 wrote: post #124

tinyhouse wrote: post #115

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The sad part is that many American jews are so worried about their image that they will automatically go against Israel no matter what.

Who? When? That's a baseless, slanderous attack, usually used to silence Jewish people (and others too, I'm sure) saying unpopular things.

Check how many US based Jews are part of anti Israel organizations such as BDS compared to other organizations that are anti other countries. Why? because they care more about the image of Israel in the world than the image of Iran or China for example. Even though they don't live in Israel and are not Israelis. That's because non-Jews often put Israelis and Jews in the same bucket, due to ignorance and/or racism. Similar to how many people put all Arabs/Muslims together.