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Huawei 5G kit must be removed from UK by 2027

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Re: Huawei 5G kit must be removed from UK by 2027

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Post by newbie578 »

coliveira wrote: post #312
justwalt wrote: post #292

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think people dislike Chinese tech because it’s made by Chinese people, but rather because the Chinese government is assumed to have some hand in it. Best faith interpretation and all that, right?

Technology has no political badges or flags. First of all, scientists and engineers are not political actors. Moreover, I have all the right to use a technology if I want it, even if it was developed in a totalitarian regime. For the US to prevent me from using this technology is infringing on my freedoms.

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Re: Huawei 5G kit must be removed from UK by 2027

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Post by CodesInChaos »

If the protocols used for mobile networks were designed to be secure, most of the infrastructure couldn't do anything worse than a DoS attack. It'd still need some trusted servers for key management, but those could be standard hardware with relatively simple software.

Re: Huawei 5G kit must be removed from UK by 2027

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Post by dang »

inetknght wrote: post #304
dang wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a stub comment to collect replies in one place. That way we can collapse it and prevent too much offtopicness at the top of thread.

> This is a stub comment to collect replies in one place. Collapsing comments only works if javascript is enabled. It would be nice if a mechanism existed to collapse comments without javascript, perhaps with a list of collapsed identifiers in the URL

Ah, that's a good point. I'm sorry not to have a better solution at the moment.

One thing I think we'll do is add links to comments to jump to next subthread (and jump to parent), which would at least enable you to skip the noise easily.

Re: Huawei 5G kit must be removed from UK by 2027

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Post by dazhbog »

dang wrote: post #249
dang wrote: post #242

All: HN has been seeing a dismaying increase in nationalistic flamewar. This is not allowed here. I know it feels important when you're caught up in the intensity of such feelings, but it is not interesting , which is what HN is for. Worse, it has the effect on interesting discussion that tank battles have on a city park. If you don't have something thoughtful and substantive to say, please don't post until you do. D…

This is a stub comment to collect replies in one place. That way we can collapse it and prevent too much offtopicness at the top of thread.

Happy to steer the conversation away from inflamatory topics. It is the right thing to do for a healthy forum.

But I think it could be handled with a little bit more transparency @dang. When you "nudge" or "handicap" posts from reaching the homepage, we would like to know maybe.

Re: Huawei 5G kit must be removed from UK by 2027

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Post by chillacy »

coliveira wrote: post #312
justwalt wrote: post #292

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think people dislike Chinese tech because it’s made by Chinese people, but rather because the Chinese government is assumed to have some hand in it. Best faith interpretation and all that, right?

Technology has no political badges or flags. First of all, scientists and engineers are not political actors. Moreover, I have all the right to use a technology if I want it, even if it was developed in a totalitarian regime. For the US to prevent me from using this technology is infringing on my freedoms.

You do have a right to buy Huawei equipment but you do not have the right to force your city/government to buy their equipment.

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Post by whatsyourpoint »

coliveira wrote: post #312
justwalt wrote: post #292

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think people dislike Chinese tech because it’s made by Chinese people, but rather because the Chinese government is assumed to have some hand in it. Best faith interpretation and all that, right?

Technology has no political badges or flags. First of all, scientists and engineers are not political actors. Moreover, I have all the right to use a technology if I want it, even if it was developed in a totalitarian regime. For the US to prevent me from using this technology is infringing on my freedoms.

I made a well thought out comment to you above but it is clear from this response that you are willing to accept the rewards of mass extermination and will stomp your feet screeching about your "freedom" to profit from it.

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Post by fluffything »

simonkafan wrote: post #269

Impressive how much power the USA has over UK. It is known that Cisco has backdoors in their routers - and UK politics doesn't care. Now the Trump administration is spreading the rumor that Huawei hardware _might_ have backdoors (when the most plausible actual reason for this warning is to gain the upper hand in the trade war) and England is already putting the wish into action.

UK is in a weird spot now alone in the world out of the EU.

The country is essentially for sale. China just needs to make the "right" political donations.

Re: Huawei 5G kit must be removed from UK by 2027

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Post by the8472 »

dang wrote: post #323
inetknght wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is a stub comment to collect replies in one place. Collapsing comments only works if javascript is enabled. It would be nice if a mechanism existed to collapse comments without javascript, perhaps with a list of collapsed identifiers in the URL

Ah, that's a good point. I'm sorry not to have a better solution at the moment. One thing I think we'll do is add links to comments to jump to next subthread (and jump to parent), which would at least enable you to skip the noise easily.

html5's summary/detail works without javascript, can be controlled via attributes and remains interactive with JS disabled. Maybe with some creative CSS it could be somehow wrangled into the [-]?
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