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Current WHO advice: "If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19." [0] Where we live, due to local laws , we are now obliged to wear a mask to go shopping. Can one discuss that on YouTube, or would one be contradicting the WHO? I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( We keep trying to encourage our ki…

I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( The idea is: "We are the decent, good, people who know the truth. Now we control the platforms, so it's only well and good we control the information, and we tell the deplorable others what they can and can't say." Almost everyone in the history books as a horrible oppressor has told themselves that narrative. Many…

Almost no one in previous history had an ability to directly target poor, uneducated masses which their own content created in their own bedroom.

Also let’s be honest - the likes of Hitler actually came from the likes of people who would tell you to stop listening to WHO advice and to go start fires in 5G towers.

Don’t get me wrong, freedom of speech et. al., and we’re probably also going to get burnt by the freedom with which today’s global platforms invent the rules - but the laws are being written now; and we’re obviously not dealing with an easy, black-and-white answer.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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China has it under control. It will not become a pandemic. It doesn't transmit between humans. Who is Taiwan? Wouldn't dare contradict the WHO...

Please don't let the bad-faith "China bad" idiocy leak here from Reddit.

I had the best possible faith in the WHO at the of 2019, they squandered it by playing politics and pandering to China.

The CCP though, they deserve every bit of bad faith they get, long before and long after this crises, they've well an truly earned it and only the most naive would give them any respect.

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Please don't twist the situation. The Head of the WHO was attacked by racist trolls who were outwardly Taiwanese; for excluding Taiwan from membership (like _all_ U.N. projects do), And he commented about the abuse. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/04/taiwan-who-tedro...

He "commented about the abuse" in order to deflect from a question about why the WHO didn't take Taiwan's warnings seriously.

I think you're missing the point.

Taiwan does not exist as an entity to the WHO because it is not recognised by the United Nations.

As much as Taiwan has valuable lessons it's basically akin to asking why the WHO isn't listening to the municipality of sealand.

The journalist asking that question in the first place knew that Taiwan is a political hotbed and was looking for a story, they got one and the WHO is under the bus- at a time when we need a united front in healthcare globally.

And the racist abuse was entirely real: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/taiwan-rej...

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Current WHO advice: "If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19." [0] Where we live, due to local laws , we are now obliged to wear a mask to go shopping. Can one discuss that on YouTube, or would one be contradicting the WHO? I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( We keep trying to encourage our ki…

I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( The idea is: "We are the decent, good, people who know the truth. Now we control the platforms, so it's only well and good we control the information, and we tell the deplorable others what they can and can't say." Almost everyone in the history books as a horrible oppressor has told themselves that narrative. Many…

Thanks to Google, Facebook and the others this is the golden era of being able to widely disseminate your alternate theories on everything. If that is your definition of freedom then you are less oppressed then any other humans in history.

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I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( The idea is: "We are the decent, good, people who know the truth. Now we control the platforms, so it's only well and good we control the information, and we tell the deplorable others what they can and can't say." Almost everyone in the history books as a horrible oppressor has told themselves that narrative. Many…

Let the market sort them out then, right?

Thank you for the laugh.

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post #214

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> Neither does the US. Taiwan is only recognised by IIRC 12 natinos, mostly small island states. This has become another weird internet talking point as international recognition pretty much unanmiously switched to the PRC in the 1970s. That's misleading. The US de facto recognizes Taiwan, and the only reason it doesn't recognize it de jure is that the PRC would formally cut off relations if it did. https://en.wikipe…

More importantly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_US_arms_sales_to_Taiwa... Like, it's ok that we sell Taiwan fighter jets and tanks to defend themselves against China, as long as we say that Taiwan belongs to china. I'll never understand politics.

My guess it’s okey to do that because Chinese internal politics is based on PR which is populistic in nature. What is the proportion of people who would go out looking for lists of American exports into Taiwan vs the proportion of people who would hear Taiwan being pronounced by the president of the US?

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( The idea is: "We are the decent, good, people who know the truth. Now we control the platforms, so it's only well and good we control the information, and we tell the deplorable others what they can and can't say." Almost everyone in the history books as a horrible oppressor has told themselves that narrative. Many…

Let the market sort them out then, right?

Very hard for the market to sort out NSA-backed companies like Google, Facebook et al.

Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I fear there isn't "one truth" out there, despite the content providers' and fact-checkers' attempts :( The idea is: "We are the decent, good, people who know the truth. Now we control the platforms, so it's only well and good we control the information, and we tell the deplorable others what they can and can't say." Almost everyone in the history books as a horrible oppressor has told themselves that narrative. Many…

Thanks to Google, Facebook and the others this is the golden era of being able to widely disseminate your alternate theories on everything. If that is your definition of freedom then you are less oppressed then any other humans in history.

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Re: YouTube bans coronavirus-related content that directly contradicts WHO advice

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post #252

The concept of 'fake news' was invented to bring power back into the hands of large media companies and the corporations which control them by discrediting all alternative news sources. I don't believe in fake news or conspiracy theories, but I do read conspiracy media and articles from 'fake news' outlets because it helps to get perspective. There is definitely a grain of truth in many conspiracy theories and 'fake…

> For example, some scientists found that covid-19 shared some non-trivial segment of RNA with the HIV virus. This is "zombie information" and a perfect example of the kind of nonsense that should be stopped. The single paper this came from was thoroughly debunked by a hundred real scientists the day it was posted. (It used statistical criteria so loose that it could have said any virus was related to HIV.) The paper…

French Nobel prize winning scientist Luc Montagnier who discovered HIV also made similar claims. https://www.gulftoday.ae/lifestyle/2020/04/19/french-nobel-p...

Sounds like you didn't hear about that. If the discoverer of HIV tells you that covid-19 contains segments of HIV RNA and says that he believes that it is man-made, it absolutely deserves more scrutiny even if it turns out not to be true. The media should embrace uncertainty instead of pretending to know all the answers. This is the problem with US media, there is no truth; only one extreme lie or its opposite which is also a lie. French and British media cover all possibilities and leave room doubt - This is healthy.

This close mindedness is exactly what I'm talking about and why we need some fake news in our lives.

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