Jeffrey Epstein and MIT: FAQs

Post by AndrewBissell » Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 7:30 PM UTC

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Epstein was, by all accounts, absolutely obsessed with sex and abusing underaged girls. One of his victims described the abuse he and Ghislaine Maxwell committed as "a full time job." So the question is, was he more or less restrained in broadcasting his proclivities in the early 2000s before his first conviction? And, was he more or less restrained on his private island which was essentially constructed for the purp…

You're correct about this but sadly getting downvoted. People have a hard time processing that their heroes very likely knew about Epstein's activities and at the very least looked the other way (some definitely participated themselves). Gates, Hawking, Groenig... all have their fans that will defend them to the death. The evidence is there though for those that care to look. As you say, Epstein couldn't not talk abo…

Post by AndrewBissell » Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 7:41 PM UTC

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> Normally one would give the benefit of the doubt, but given the abhorrent acts people were perpetrating or turning a blind eye to in this case, I'm inclined not to. I think this is a dangerous way to look at things... Just because there's a lot of shady people doing awful things, doesn't mean we should tar everyone who associated with the person. Whatever other things happened with other people doesn't really matte…

seriously. When I was young I used to wonder how in the hell the Salem Witch Trials ever happened. It boggled my mind. I don't wonder about how it happened anymore, I've seen it so many times it's old hat now. I mean what next, anyone who takes a jet with Bill Clinton is having sex with an intern?

Post by FireBeyond » Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 7:53 PM UTC

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For a random visualization attempt: "Everyone in this room, stand up. Every second we're going to count a million dollars. If your net worth is less than that amount, sit down." Most people will sit down in a second or two. Some might last ten seconds. A billionaire will still be standing 16 minutes later. Every second, a million dollars ticking away. TWO DAYS later, you're getting to the richest people in the world.…

One day, in your setup, is 86bn (plus change). By Wikipedia data, the richest person is Jeff Bezos with 113bn. So who are the two-day-ers? Poorest of them must have almost 173bn, who are those?

Post by dguaraglia » Sat, Jan 11, 2020, 10:12 PM UTC

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No. I'm just pointing out that there's a lot of conspiracy theories trying to link people who had at best tangential relationships with Epstein with his demise, but somehow manage to ignore that literally the most powerful man on planet Earth had a lot to lose from Epstein's indiscretions becoming public. It's interesting how conspiracy theories seem to always have a very particular... 'conservative' bias.

So the Russian collusion conspiracy is a "conservative" bias. That's pretty interesting.

Post by malvosenior » Sun, Jan 12, 2020, 12:11 AM UTC

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Epstein was most likely backed by Israel, so you should ask what they would want with quantum computing.

So your accusation is that Epstein blackmailed Seth Lloyd or converted him into an Israeli spy/consultant on quantum computing? Many engineering professors consult with private companies for a fee. So it seems odd that a country would need to take a roundabout and scandalous approach like this to pick a professor's brain, when they could just work though a legitimate-seeming company as an intermediary.