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Re: The world needs more search engines

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Post by dang »

arrosenberg wrote: post #112

How do you design regulation that holds the giants accountable, doesn't impair smaller companies' ability to enter/innovate in the space, and isn't quickly corruptible by the (well-resourced) companies you are trying to control? We're better served by breaking them up and enforcing and strengthening the pro-competition laws on the books. The government has a pretty mixed record with regulating industry, and a far mor…

This comment was originally a reply to https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21676505.

Re: The world needs more search engines

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Post by buboard »

kbyatnal wrote: post #300
buboard wrote: post #288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what else is there to search, honestly? 1000 headphone affiliate sites? "honest" reviews sponsored by sennheiser? Reddit at least provides generally-ungamed reactions and high density of opinions. Adding "reddit" is the default for any search that matters for me nowadays. I was just searching "game payment gateway" , reddit had the most informative comments.

Reddit is a great option (and this is exactly what I do for a lot of searches as well) but its only one of many forums. If you're a programmer searching for headphones, results from HN would be great. If you're a designer, then results from DesignerNews. If you're using them for travel, then you probably want /r/travel. Reddit is a great option, but there's a TON of hidden forums out there that are gold mines for inf…

hmm maybe you re right but google no longer shows results from the tail end of the distribution. adding "reddit" nudges him to try harder

Re: The world needs more search engines

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Post by saagarjha »

phendrenad2 wrote: post #318

Search engines are really a relic from back when everyone had their own webpage. Now everyone posts their content on a handful* of sites - Medium, Reddit, StackOverflow. I think what we need is an inversion of the search engine model... instead of a web crawler scouring the web for new pages, these handful of companies (Medium, Reddit, thousands more) should register with the search engines and push sitemaps regularl…

> Now everyone posts their content on a handful of sites - Medium, Reddit, StackOverflow.

They do not and it would be a sad day if they did. Please don’t help push us towards that any further.

Re: The world needs more search engines

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Post by mikl »

creato wrote: post #310
mikl wrote: post #270

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> Google was trying to comply with the law. Google was trying to gain the Chinese market by implementing political censorship. And once they knelt and swore allegiance to the Chinese regime, every other totalitarian regime around the world would be lining up with demands that they do the same in their countries. Expecting Google to stand up to EU on anything is naïve. They already got massive fines, they don’t have t…

> Google was trying to gain the Chinese market by implementing political censorship. And once they knelt and swore allegiance to the Chinese regime, every other totalitarian regime around the world would be lining up with demands that they do the same in their countries. I'm super glad that google didn't go through with dragonfly and it's really sad that they even went as far as they did. However, going through with…

I think it’s pretty clear that Google would have gone through with Dragonfly if it wasn’t for the protests against it, both from the public and Google employees.

In other words, their refraining from Dragonfly wasn’t because of moral courage or a principled stance. It was just to avoid a PR disaster.

And it was only because Dragonfly was leaked that that we ever heard of it. Imagine what other interesting programs they’ve got going on that we haven’t heard of yet.

Re: The world needs more search engines

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Post by dragonwriter »

phendrenad2 wrote: post #318

Search engines are really a relic from back when everyone had their own webpage. Now everyone posts their content on a handful* of sites - Medium, Reddit, StackOverflow. I think what we need is an inversion of the search engine model... instead of a web crawler scouring the web for new pages, these handful of companies (Medium, Reddit, thousands more) should register with the search engines and push sitemaps regularl…

> Search engines are really a relic from back when everyone had their own webpage. Now everyone posts their content on a handful of sites

but:

> since the internet is so vast now that only Google/Microsoft/Yandex can afford the server/bandwidth fees to crawl it.

Is it a vast space that search engines need to crawl, or are there only a handful of sites that matter?

Re: The world needs more search engines

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Post by FabHK »

dmix wrote: post #77
cdumler wrote: post #62

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Generally speaking, empires are negative entities. The work because they took advantage of being first (or first to be successful) and used that advantage to absorb the wealth of those they conquer. While a lot of productive things can come out of such an environment, at its heart the empire is sustained by consumption. When there is less to conquer, there is less wealth available for the wealthy, but the desires of…

Wealth isn't some finite quantity that is merely taken or traded between a group of individuals. This is highly ignorant of economics and is a worldview that sadly what drives a lot of hysteria around wealth inequality (that when one person has more wealth it means they deprived it from another person who would have had it otherwise, combined with the idea it just sits there in a bank account not being used or it's a…

Just for the record, many people who oppose and criticise massive wealth inequality are fully aware of the basics of economics (or even advanced economics).

Re: The world needs more search engines

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Post by markosaric »

pythux wrote: post #10
Hackbraten wrote: post #4

Thanks but no thanks. I don’t trust a browser nor a search engine if an ad imperium paid for it and gives it away for free. Does the Cliqz browser still disallow plugins, such as ad blockers?

> Does the Cliqz browser still disallow plugins, such as ad blockers? Hey, I work on Cliqz' adblocker (open-source here: https://github.com/cliqz-oss/adblocker ). Cliqz browser comes built-in with adblocking, anti-tracking, anti-phishing and private search built-in so that users are protected by default . You can also install another one if you prefer since all Firefox extension are also available from Cliqz! But the…

Just an FYI: I wanted to add beta.cliqz.com to my Firefox search engine list to test it a bit over the next few days. Firefox doesn't seem to "recognize" it as a search engine so you cannot add it using the normal procedure that works on all the other search engines.

Re: The world needs more search engines

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Post by sgt101 »

Terretta wrote: post #148
jefftk wrote: post #120

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Why do you think Google Search still knows who you are when you search in Incognito mode? (Or, in Firefox, if you open a private browsing window.) How would it know? There are advertising companies that use fingerprinting for ad targeting, but Google doesn't. (Disclosure: I work at Google on ads, speaking only for myself)

How does it know to offer (in incognito mode) a list of your accounts you might want to re-login to? (Not always, but often enough to raise an eyebrow.) Seems like a pretty good reason to think it still knows who you are. As to how that works, you tell us.

Are you using random Mac addresses?

Re: The world needs more search engines

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Post by FabHK »

__ka wrote: post #79
nchase wrote: post #25

Is there an english-language version? The website is in German for me

There is - click the settings icon on the top-right corner. Then click on Sucheinstellungen, and under Sprache choose English.

Might make sense to make that more easily discoverable for international users, but I guess you're working on it.
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