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Craigslist takes personals sections offline in response to FOSTA

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Re: Craigslist takes personals sections offline in response to FOSTA

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Estimated 57,700 slaves in the United States according to Global Slavery Index [0]. Here is a related WP article[1]. [0] https://www.globalslaveryindex.org/index/ [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/10/17...

That number is pretending to be accurate the error bars are rediculus to have 3 digits.

Yeah it seems too odd that the population percentage is 0.018% in so many countries.

Re: Craigslist takes personals sections offline in response to FOSTA

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> we should be burning down craigslist entirely So, let's all be honest about something about CL personals that means these folks might not be wrong (even if, as is likely, the actual legislation is terrible policy). I've actually used CL personals to get some dates, and there are things I liked about it (primarily text-focused medium can be nice, are there any more of those?), and I'm single, so having it go away is…

>>But it is obvious to anyone who has used them that CL personals were utterly overwhelmed by people who are selling the other kind of Saas (Sex as a Service). That is also largely the government fault because back in 2010 they more or less forced CL to close the Sections of the site that was dedicated to Adult Services... and as predicted the people that were in those sections simply moved to the personals

Its their fault they forced craigslist to shut down a section openly advertising illegal content? I love the contortions people make. It's not like sex work is even legal in the majority of western nations

Re: Craigslist takes personals sections offline in response to FOSTA

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This is not surprising, but sad. Years ago, i was dragged (i was the only engineer in the local office) into a whitehouse (or maybe it was state department, i can't remember) sponsored working group on online sex trafficking. The non-profits dedicated to fighting this, while seemingly well-intentioned, were completely and totally unwilling to see any other perspective or try to find shared ground. It was scorched ear…

There is no "shared ground." Prostitution is illegal in all but one state of the USA, and that under very specific conditions. Craigslist should self police and remove posts that more or less are openly illegal in a way defined by the laws of the land. It's not like they are just discussing it or using free speech, its openly advocating the sale of illegal services and should be against Craiglist's own TOS.

I mean hell, if they were facilitating the illegal sale of guns this site would be up in arms to ban them.

Re: Craigslist takes personals sections offline in response to FOSTA

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Tonight tens of thousands sex workers are devestated that their safer tool for finding clients is shutting down. Exploitative sex trafficking will continue unabated, but independent working people will be forced into more dangerous situations.

LOL at craigslist being "safe." That site was always sketchy as hell.

It's a step up from standing on a corner.

Re: Craigslist takes personals sections offline in response to FOSTA

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Tonight tens of thousands sex workers are devestated that their safer tool for finding clients is shutting down. Exploitative sex trafficking will continue unabated, but independent working people will be forced into more dangerous situations.

> independent working people

Good. Sorry, but if you are not being exploited through human trafficking then you are exploiting and taking advantage of your clients deepest emotions of loneliness and love for profit.

Anyone close to that industry will tell you that the majority of your money is made off "whales" just like in Mobile gaming. Whales that fall in love and spend 5 figures and up a year on one person. Not some construction worker wanting a quickie after a long day of work.

Where did this fantasy of sex workers being some kind of net positive for the world come from?

I don't feel sex work needs to be illegal, but I'm certainly not going to have much sympathy for that industry as a whole. Go into a profession that makes the world a better place. No better than Payday loan dealers.

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Whores don’t go to the police in Norway not because they won’t help with assault and such but because the police will get them evicted from their flats. https://books.google.nl/books?id=RAXtCwAAQBAJ&pg=PT172&lpg=P...

The same book says traffickers are less likely to operate in Sweden since the law was introduced.

Traffickers would be even less likely to operate in Sweden if the penalty was death by crucifixion. Do you also support that?

Forgive me if I’m not especially impressed by the think of the children rhetoric. Drawing a line from Lutherans to modern day Sweden isn’t exactly hard. The judgmental attitude hasn’t changed one iota.

Re: Craigslist takes personals sections offline in response to FOSTA

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post #323

This is not surprising, but sad. Years ago, i was dragged (i was the only engineer in the local office) into a whitehouse (or maybe it was state department, i can't remember) sponsored working group on online sex trafficking. The non-profits dedicated to fighting this, while seemingly well-intentioned, were completely and totally unwilling to see any other perspective or try to find shared ground. It was scorched ear…

There is no "shared ground." Prostitution is illegal in all but one state of the USA, and that under very specific conditions. Craigslist should self police and remove posts that more or less are openly illegal in a way defined by the laws of the land. It's not like they are just discussing it or using free speech, its openly advocating the sale of illegal services and should be against Craiglist's own TOS. I mean he…

In general the public does not treat all forms of illegal activity facilitation the same and this is a good thing. Some forms of illegal activity facilitation are much worse than others in the eyes of the public. It’s reasonabke and natural that one instance of this evokes outrage and another a nonchalant attitude.
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