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Re: Craigslist takes personals sections offline in response to FOSTA

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Post by humanrebar »

midgetjones wrote: post #229
delbel wrote: post #130

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I screwed up and accidentally chambered two 12ga shells in my Remington 870, it was a potential dangerous accident but found video to help me safely un-f the situation. Also I found a "bug" that allowed me to shoot, under a strange condition, my 9mm when the safety was on. Found out what not to do on youtube to avoid that situation. Also couldn't figure out what this knob was on my 10/22, turns out its a critical fea…

These problems can also be avoided by not owning guns.

And you can avoid gross plumbing problems by not owning a plunger. You can have professionals with plungers deal with that.

Frankly, it's a privilege to able to rely on public and paid services to protect you and your property. Not everyone gets the same service levels and not everyone can afford to pay to fix the problem.

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Post by zeth___ »

barry-cotter wrote: post #289
zeth___ wrote: post #237

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I look repulsive and my personality isn't much better. Hookups are quite out of the question. But it must be nice to be attractive and have enough money to go out clubbing.

Stop being such a goddamned quitter. Go to r/pua or r/seduction, r/fitness and r/malefashionadvice and follow the advice in the sidebar. If all you want to do is get laid even with a repulsive personality it’s a numbers game and the highest value is in the PUA stuff. Having a body that works like it’s supposed to will both help you with getting some and your mental health. Dressing well is the least important. If you…

If I can meet biological needs like eating by paying some one and not having to hunt and farm, why shouldn't I have the option of doing the same with sex?

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Post by pavel_lishin »

secabeen wrote: post #138
thrden wrote: post #101

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While I'm not saying they should have banned one, and not the other it would have been entirely possible to say ban an opioids sales subreddit, but not the bb-gun subreddit. It would have been trivial to simply make the rule such that only illicit sales/transactions were banned. They decided to create these rules and if the rules make reddit look foolish than maybe thats because they are.

Take the challenge from their side. If they leave the bb-gun sub active, how do they ensure that people aren't going to the bb-gun sub, and trading real guns there? They'd have to have humans police each post, or develop ML algorithms that can reliably identify when someone is hiding a real gun sale as a bb-gun sale. The former doesn't scale reliably (sure, the mods of the bb-gun sub could probably do it voluntarily,…

> Banning both subs definitely stops the illegal transactions

Big ol' [citation needed]. This just moves it to r/beaniebabytrades, where you have to not explicitly say you're trading firearms. The only way this helps is by making those subreddits less discoverable, but anyone with an interest in guns will go to another subreddit, and get clued in by the members there.

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Post by emiliobumachar »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #280
mnm1 wrote: post #197

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> That said, I really wish that I could come forward with a solution to the online sex trafficking problem. Start by legalizing prostitution and removing the black market. That won't end all trafficking, but will end a lot and will make it much easier to go after the remaining illegal black market as it's now been separated from the legal market. Comment about how people who don't learn are doomed to repeat history h…

It's much easier to hide illegally activity that mirrors legal activity than it is to hide illegal activity where all the surrounding paraphernalia is direct evidence. Your assertion that legalisation of prostitution will lead to less trafficking of people seems naive to me - you create a larger market and allow people to easily hide.

You bring forth a compelling theory, but I don't think it's true. Compare the market for contraband or counterfeited booze and cigarettes, which "mirrors" legal booze and cigarettes, with the market for cocaine and heroin, where "all the surrounding paraphernalia is direct evidence".

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Post by vixen99 »

sah2ed wrote: post #275
zeth___ wrote: post #237

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I look repulsive and my personality isn't much better. Hookups are quite out of the question. But it must be nice to be attractive and have enough money to go out clubbing.

> I look repulsive and my personality isn't much better. If you tell yourself those things often enough, which frankly sound like what other people have said about you in the past, eventually you start to believe them as fact. Both looks and personality can be improved upon, even if you are on a budget.

Perhaps the commenter was merely making a point but no doubt your advice is invaluable.

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Post by dwighttk »

odammit wrote: post #160
narrator wrote: post #77

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Since I'm a relatively old guy, I'll tell you how it used to work. Before cell phones, online dating and apps, the way people met people was through friends, or at work, or god forbid, randomly approaching a stranger and introducing oneself, usually at a nightclub or bar, but sometimes at a supermarket or cafe. Rejection happened in one's face publicly in front of other people!

Don’t forget the video dating.

Like VHS

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Post by pavel_lishin »

abritinthebay wrote: post #83
flamedoge wrote: post #61

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decentralized network can't come soon enough. I foresee YC, Reddit, Youtube, FB, and alike get supplanted by technology that has no ownership.

Every single decentralized version of those sites has died a death due to a) being pretty awful b) attracting completely terrible users as it’s base c) terrible user experience. What do you see changing?

(b) might flip. Naturally, a majority of people using decentralized solutions were looking to circumvent something, and that something used to be things like drug laws. But the more things get taken away on the "public" internet, the more reason there is for everyday folks to start going dark.

If my mom wants to go on a date, and Craiglist, Tinder and OkCupid are all shut down - why wouldn't she use a service that's still around due to it being Dark?

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Post by vixen99 »

hnzix wrote: post #233
kofejnik wrote: post #227

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> it's a completely and totally human response to faceless, blameless, unapproachable (from their perspective) perpetrators and facilitators of systematic abuse and exploitation of innocent and vulnerable people. You mean, like millions of illegal immigrants who are working in farming, construction, fast food, and many other industries? How do you feel about scorched earth approach to those?

Apparently trading your body for sex is somehow metaphysically different to trading your body for labor.

It most certainly is for an indeterminate number of people.

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Post by barry-cotter »

jacobush wrote: post #151
valuearb wrote: post #95

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Legal prostitutes can call the police for help from pimps or others trying to abuse or coerce them, without fear of arrest. Legal prostitutes are incentivized to work with the police to report others being coerced, it’s competition. Bringing things out into the open helps clean them up. Keeping them in the dark allows evil to multiply. The next time Prohibition helped the people it was trying to protect will also be…

Thanks for your comment, and the others in the thread too. I think I must be tinted by how it works in Sweden. First of all, the word "trafficking" there is most of all associated with the trade of minors. Also, soliciting sex ("prostitution") is not illegal for adults. Buying the service is. This has some interesting implications. It caters to the "conservative base" who does not want to see fully legalized prostitu…

Whores don’t go to the police in Norway not because they won’t help with assault and such but because the police will get them evicted from their flats.

https://books.google.nl/books?id=RAXtCwAAQBAJ&pg=PT172&lpg=P...

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