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What It Felt Like in Hawaii When Warning of an In-Bound Missile Arrived

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Post by mLuby »

warent wrote: post #41
IIAOPSW wrote: post #17

I'm currently living in Japan. So obviously I have a plan for nuclear war. First, I'm going to press send on the doomsday draft which is sitting in my e-mail. Second, I'm going to go to youtube and play "We all go together" by Tom Leher. Third, I got a bottle sitting in my desk that I'm going to pop open. Presumably I'll be in the office at the time so one final round with the coworkers. The people in this article se…

I don't know about you but filling the bathtub is my instinctual reaction to anything that goes wrong. Job going badly? Fill the bathtub. Medical emergency? Fill the bathtub. Lost my house key? FILL THE BATHTUB.

In a tub you might get to see some Cherenkov radiation up close. Would be a nice silver lining to radiation exposure. :)

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Post by jen729w »

berbec wrote: post #232
UweSchmidt wrote: post #210

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You think the US would actually retaliate against a limited nuclear attack in an isolated place with a massive nuclear counterattack? (I can see it in a cold war scenario against the USSR, with tanks moving into Europe and the world order at stake) I think the US woudln't and, of course, shouldn't. The usual game-theoretical reasonings in this regard are misguided and shortsighted.

I don't think a normal, sanely led US would do that either. More likely the president and joint chiefs would sit in a room and discuss "a proportional response". Turning most of North Korea uninhabitable for generations does not meet that standard. On the other hand, I can see President MAGA saying "turn the entire peninsula into one large crater," a series of Generals trying to talk him out of it and getting fired.…

Not sure why this has been downvoted. It may have been lyrically written but the point is sound. The guy with his finger on your button is a fucking madman.

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Post by gonzo »

joshuakcockrell wrote: post #271
henrikschroder wrote: post #220

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Pro: A bunch of them are nutty doomsday preppers, with a lot of food supplies in their basements. Con: The polygamy, child abuse, and endless fast and testimony meetings get kinda old after a while.

Mormons stopped practicing polygamy in 1890.

They declared the practice “over” twice. Once in 1890, and again in 1904.

Many Mormons entered into polygamous marriages after 1890. Over 200 polygamous marriages were performed between 1890 and 1904.

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Post by jmadsen »

warent wrote: post #41
IIAOPSW wrote: post #17

I'm currently living in Japan. So obviously I have a plan for nuclear war. First, I'm going to press send on the doomsday draft which is sitting in my e-mail. Second, I'm going to go to youtube and play "We all go together" by Tom Leher. Third, I got a bottle sitting in my desk that I'm going to pop open. Presumably I'll be in the office at the time so one final round with the coworkers. The people in this article se…

I don't know about you but filling the bathtub is my instinctual reaction to anything that goes wrong. Job going badly? Fill the bathtub. Medical emergency? Fill the bathtub. Lost my house key? FILL THE BATHTUB.

This.

I live in Japan as well & told my family the same a long time back. There aren't that many other specifics you can plan for, with the family typically spread across the city on the average day, but at least grab a bathtub of clean water to see you through a few days till things settle down.

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Post by sky_rw »

henrikschroder wrote: post #220
cbr wrote: post #205

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I'm not a member of the church I'm atheist, but if things were going horribly wrong LDS would be high on my list of people to be around.

Pro: A bunch of them are nutty doomsday preppers, with a lot of food supplies in their basements. Con: The polygamy, child abuse, and endless fast and testimony meetings get kinda old after a while.

It seems odd to call them "nutty" when the subject is who to turn to in an oh-shit real-life doomsday scenario.

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Post by jmadsen »

hugozap wrote: post #92
sdrothrock wrote: post #63

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I'm also in Japan, and I have a pretty serious go-bag for this kind of thing. It's because of political tensions for me; we're in spitting distance of North Korea.

What surprises me is that the foreigners in Japan are the ones who are scared about that situation, Japanese people don't care that much.

That's BS. Completely untrue.

You just aren't reading/listening to Japanese people on the subject.

No one is freaking out, but we're all tense at more or less the same level, as per our individual personalities.

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Post by QAPereo »

henrikschroder wrote: post #318
QAPereo wrote: post #282

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I’m not a Mormon, or even a Christian, so I have no stake here. What the fuck? No. I’ve traveled all over, and met a lot of Mormons and have Mormon friends. The most sinister thing they’re into is family game night. Ok, I’m no fan of the missionary thing, but again, as a non-Christian I appreciate that the Mormons take no for an answer, and will still hang out with you. Their religion is wacky, but so is every religi…

Of course your anecdotes are true, individual Mormons can be the nicest, most well-meaning people ever, and Mormonism does indeed have a reputation for being a wacky but harmless religion. However, Utah has one of the highest youth suicide rates in the nation, and one of the highest rates of anti-depressant medication use in the nation. This is in large part due to the unrealistic expectations and pressure its member…

How’s the suicide rate among evangelical Christians? Southern Baptists? If you tell young people to shape up or be damned, some will implode, especially LGBT youth, people struggling with addictions, atheists, etc. Sadly (imo) Mormons are like many other Anrahamic religions (and others) which make life very hard for a significant portion of the population. I also don’t believe they’re somehow different or worse than any others. They have strengths and weaknesses like any large group of humans.

https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/155/5/413/171404

Not compelling, especially when you note that suicide is only one metric, violence against others being another, and so much more. Most of all though, I didn’t say they were wacky in particular, I said that they were wacky as are all religions. I don’t see them as materially different from any other religion, except in some cases, age.

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Post by rdiddly »

sheepmullet wrote: post #231
rdiddly wrote: post #152

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Unless you're saying this person is worth less than you, then the plan suited to them is indeed as good as the one suited to you. A few popular assumptions that aren't necessarily true: Living is always better than dying. Your actions have an effect on the outcome. You can do it. People should always do what they should. It matters.

> Unless you're saying this person is worth less than you By their relative actions aren't they both agreeing that in this situation the one doing nothing to saves themselves is worth less?

You would have to ask them. Speaking for myself, I think a few minutes of acting however I wish, even at great peril, might be very tempting compared to living longer as a craven little mouse scurrying from hole to hole. Not sure what I'd choose until I were in the moment of course, but the example seems sufficient to point out that the diametric opposite conclusion is possible.

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Post by codetwelve »

burfog wrote: post #308
namelost wrote: post #283

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If nuclear war is that close to happening, then we are already too far gone to address it. Who is going to be the one to convince Trump to decommission some of America's nuclear weapons?

Putin has more nuclear weapons. Shouldn't he decommission his first? He has already risked kicking off WWIII several times. He took a chunk of Ukraine, broke two chunks off of Georgia, make a bunch of border incursions into NATO/EU countries up north, and is currently supporting a civil war in Ukraine. The situation is pretty crazy. Russia is far from the world's biggest economy, yet it is the nation with the greates…

I would suggest you take a bigger look at geopolitics. What Nato is, how it's made and how it's really an extension of the US army. Gorbachev was promised that America and Nato would not expand to the east. Little by little they encroached on Russia's borders and meddled with countries to expand there power. There are now Nato and American military bases at Russia's doorstep and Ukraine was set to be next. That is why Russia took a stand.

I don't agree with Russia's policies, also not an American, but just taking a look at the last few decades, you can see the build up and America is not innocent in any of it.

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