Against an Increasingly User-Hostile Web

Post by na85 » Thu, Nov 02, 2017, 10:01 PM UTC

jdavis703 wrote: post #253

baxtr wrote: post #186

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Same here. I simply hate sites with videos and no related text content/summary. I’ve noticed that especially news sites are increasingly employing this “feature”. I assume the main reason for this is that can force you to watch the 20-30s video ad. There is no way of avoiding it other than opening a new tab and doing something else for 30s... what a waste of life time

What would be a better solution for ensuring the video's producers continue to receive funding to make more videos?

Post by s73ver_ » Thu, Nov 02, 2017, 10:02 PM UTC

woogley wrote: post #282

coldtea wrote: post #276

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> It seems increasingly that web content is being delivered in video form. That itself is hostile to some people. Some of us want the freedom to read (or scan quickly). But many of the providers of "content" know they have little to provide, so they drag it out in video form, saving the actual information for the last 10% of the video (if ever!) This I find incredibly hostile Isn't that a kind of entitlement? I might…

It's not entitlement, it's just an opinion. OP said they move on to a different source with their preferred format.

Post by akoncius » Thu, Nov 02, 2017, 10:04 PM UTC

vog wrote: post #248

tomjen3 wrote: post #233

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There are podcasts like that, but I admit I am strange because all my favourite podcasts are multiple hours long, getting really deep into the content. Jocos podcasts, which doesn't really have ads other than for his own products, fx are often more than 3 hours, Dan Carlins Hardcore History is typically that long per episode, but often they are also part of a series, like his 5 episodes on the first world war (probab…

This. Exactly this. I don't get why anyone would listen to a podcast with ads and/or bad information density. I mean, the whole point (and value) of podcasts is to remove the private radio station crap, not to replicate it. BTW, the German podcast scene is a quite positive example of the directions podcasts can go.

Post by d--b » Thu, Nov 02, 2017, 10:10 PM UTC

Post by s73ver_ » Thu, Nov 02, 2017, 10:15 PM UTC

lovich wrote: post #311

s73ver_ wrote: post #171

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No, the idea that something can be "hostile" hinges on the idea that you were entitled to it in the other form to begin with. Someone not providing content in the form you wish is an inconvenience at best.

I could be hostile to you right now, and you wouldn't have even requested anything from me. Hostility has nothing to do with what someone owes someone else. Have you ever seen the soup Nazi from Seinfeld? Would you say he's not hostile because no body is owed his soup?