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Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by erikpukinskis »

dboreham wrote: post #283
ynak wrote: post #50

FastMail is great and their web interface is really light and fast, but the pricing[0] doesn't fit me. I want to use my custom domain as an email address, so I have to choose the `Enhanced` plan ($40 USD per 1 year). That also provides 100 domains and 500 domain aliases, it is a bit overwhelming for personal use. I hope they would make a new middle-class plan between `Full` and `Enhanced` with Cal/Card DAV features.…

And...this is why nobody can make any money providing decent services on the Internet, and as a result we're all subject to a constant onslaught of intrusive and scammy advertising. And those of us who might have been creating useful services are instead spending our time building ever more bogus advertising platforms...

There's a pretty big gap between $40 and "nobody can make any money".

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by glenr »

skrause wrote: post #260
unicornporn wrote: post #18

Lately I've been looking at some paid email options as I'm not happy with the offering over at Yahoo, Google, Microsoft or AOL. I wonder why they're all quite expensive. Fastmail is $40 a year, and that's for 15 GB. I would need at least 20 GB (which means I'm looking at $120 a year). 15 GB is free over at Google. Does that mean my data is really worth $40 a year to them. I do realize this is oversimplifying things..…

I on the other hand have a mailbox that is not even 100 MB, but I would have to pay $40 a year just to use my own domain. That's also a bit too expensive for my low mail volume.

I don't believe so... you could use the Family Lite account for $10/year (250MB, custom domain) - https://www.fastmail.com/signup/family.html

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by thelibrarian »

zafiro17 wrote: post #241
abtinf wrote: post #184

Why does FastMail charge a family account fee, thus making it more expensive to have two accounts under a family account than two individual accounts?

There's benefit that comes with the family account. I use one with wife and kids. You get shared address books and easy read/write access to others' folders you can configure as needed. So I have a folder in my IMAP tree that my wife can read (for bills etc.) and we both have read access to the kids' accounts. And we all share a family address book that I update once for everyone's benefit. In my experience, a family…

There is also the benefit of being able to use one custom domain, and have multiple accounts attached to it.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by monkeywork »

whacker wrote: post #216
dave_atx wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was down long enough that it blew through the queue for several (most? some?) MTAs which were about ~36 hours if I remember correctly.

The default I have seen everywhere (qmail, postfix) is a week.

that's assuming no one changes defaults... if your a large enough provider you are tweaking these settings.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by solipsism »

superuser2 wrote: post #187
curt15 wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Part of this decision was also a switch from Google Drive to Dropbox: Dropbox supports Linux, Google Drive does not. Which to me has always been kind of weird because Google uses Linux internally for most of their workstations.

They are probably dogfooding the office suite that works fine in Chrome on Linux, and anything that's not a Doc/Sheet/presentation is source code under version control. I doubt they felt a pressing need for a desktop app supporting arbitrary kinds of files.

Don't forget YouTube.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by ViViDboarder »

Illniyar wrote: post #61
ynak wrote: post #50

FastMail is great and their web interface is really light and fast, but the pricing[0] doesn't fit me. I want to use my custom domain as an email address, so I have to choose the `Enhanced` plan ($40 USD per 1 year). That also provides 100 domains and 500 domain aliases, it is a bit overwhelming for personal use. I hope they would make a new middle-class plan between `Full` and `Enhanced` with Cal/Card DAV features.…

What about the family or business plans? They seem to have custom domain even at the lite option. https://www.fastmail.com/signup/family.html

It says no custom domain support. I only see it at the enhanced option, just like personal.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by tdfx »

bluGill wrote: post #228
privateersman wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not use that transfer as an excuse to delete old email? I try to limit my accounts to hundreds of MBs, despite having far more capacity. Reduce the weight you carry around rather than hire a bigger backpack.

My tax returns are emailed to me. Even though I have never needed them I'm legally required to save them for 7 years just in case. I have a number of other emails in the old list that I don't expect to ever need again but they are still relevant to something and I need to keep them just in case. Odds are my house will not burn down, but I still have fire insurance - most of my old emails are like that: I don't believ…

I back all my Gmail, Google Drive, contacts, etc. to S3 each year. Essentially I've got a yearly snapshot of each year's data, encrypted with GPG, in a rather redundant form of extremely cheap storage. Knowing this, deleting old years' emails from Gmail doesn't bother me.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by kirked »

maccard wrote: post #208
StavrosK wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have your own server (of any kind, even a Raspberry Pi), there's no excuse for not running your own CardDAV, at least (you can also run CalDAV), and it works beautifully: https://www.stavros.io/posts/private-contacts-and-calendars-... Radicale even commits every change to a git repo, if you want, so you can go back to your contacts history an arbitrary amount of time just by using `git log`!

I'm interested in keeping my data private, and willing to pay for it, I'm just not interested in maintaining a server, and dealing with 1) keeping it up, and 2) keeping it secure. I'd just rather pay someone a small monthly/annual fee to do it for me, along with keeping my data private.

Protonmail? https://protonmail.com

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by dboreham »

erikpukinskis wrote: post #321
dboreham wrote: post #283

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And...this is why nobody can make any money providing decent services on the Internet, and as a result we're all subject to a constant onslaught of intrusive and scammy advertising. And those of us who might have been creating useful services are instead spending our time building ever more bogus advertising platforms...

There's a pretty big gap between $40 and "nobody can make any money".

Not really. Try running a service where you charge users. $40 per account is near the lower bound considering transaction costs and other overheads, before you add in the actual cost to provide the service. Any less and you may as well make it free since you don't need to provide reliable service or support for freeloaders.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by aorth »

confounded wrote: post #298

Very happy recent convert to KolabNow! Pros: - 100% green energy - 100% Free Software - Servers run on fully open POWER8 architecture! - Server for your contacts (CalDAV), calendar (CalDav), and notes (IMAP) - Swiss privacy laws - They run what seem like very fancy business-class LUG events in Europe. Of no utility to me what-so-ever, but I'm glad to be indirectly funding this sort of thing. Cons: - No 2FA :( - Not t…

I've been using Kolab Now for a year or two as well, primarily for the peace of mind of them being Swiss — who knows how far the famed "Swiss privacy" goes in reality though, especially these days. In any case, they are a Swiss entity and their servers are in Switzerland, so it's outside of the Five Eyes at least.

I'm happy with the service, though it's nothing fancy. No major downtime, other than two or three times over the years where sending a message over IMAP from Mac OS X Mail.app was rejected for an hour or so (webmail worked fine). The fact that they support open-source software development is an added benefit (and gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling inside).

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