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Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by tambourine_man »

ZenoArrow wrote: post #301
tambourine_man wrote: post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, but being on equal footing is not enough.

Sure it is. If Firefox and Chrome have similar UI, similar performance, similar functionality, but Firefox also has the added benefit of respecting your privacy, the only reason to use Chrome over Firefox is an emotional one.

So, basically keep the same course of action. It's not working great, hence the article.

Mozilla can't advertise their browser on every search query or offer better integration with Google services. If they continue to pursue being similar to Chrome they'll just keep sliding away into irrelevance.

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Post by elektronjunge »

nathan_long wrote: post #303
1ris wrote: post #209

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Why not? That's the way I use the web. If i need it at some point the next week I don't close it.

Why not? Because finding an open tab is an O(N) problem, whereas searching bookmarks is O(1).

Its not you can search your open tabs in firefox. I also maintain sets through tab groups that allow me to bring up several things that I'm working on with out having to type in several urls.

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Post by eropple »

dang wrote: post #295
eropple wrote: post #238

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I downvoted and flagged him because he spams this post on Google threads, using a sockpuppet every time. He is not interested in discussion, he's interested in frothing.

If true, that's abusive. If you email links of previous instances to hn@ycombinator.com, we will investigate.

I believe they're linked elsewhere on this thread. (On a phone, can't go searching)

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Post by RubyPinch »

blntechie wrote: post #178
RubyPinch wrote: post #119

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additionally, on the google help page explaining all of that, it also has a guide explaining how to get around the restriction (which is easy as, drag from the download bar onto the extensions page (last time I used it at least))

You cannot do that anymore. You cannot install extensions from outside Chrome Web Store. Period. Believe developer builds and Chromium are the only choices.

are you sure? I just did it on release channel, developer mode turned off

build: 36.0.1985.143 (Official Build 287914) m

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Post by stephenr »

VikingCoder wrote: post #302
stephenr wrote: post #241

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When the people are constantly defending an organisation that is becoming increasingly harmful to their own well being, what else is it but a cult?

More than almost any corporation on the planet, Google has made my life better. I suspect the same is true for a lot of people. When people like you constantly attack an organization that is increasingly useful to everyone else's well being, what else is that but paranoia?

So your logic is, that because you feel like they've made your life better, all the publicly available information about where they have done and are doing increasingly "evil" things, is all somehow the dreams of madmen?

Also please remember this quote from the author of Catch-22:

> Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you

Re: Choose Firefox Now, Or Later You Won't Get A Choice

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Post by bhenick »

_random_ wrote: post #56

Mozilla's persistent over-promotion of the legacy technologies (HTML, JS, CSS) as the only acceptable way of web development is a very strong turn-off for me. NaCl let's you use e.g. C# in-browser without shitty and low-performance workarounds like transpiling. I hope it will become mainstream.

Imperative languages - i.e., markup and scripting languages (HTML and CSS) have a shallower learning curve than programming languages, about which you need to learn about variables, objects, types, control structures, and so on through the entire catalog of logic concepts.

At least there's enough JavaScript out there that you can get usable native code on GitHub, or perhaps even just cut-and-paste. Even without jQuery, if you're sagacious enough. And then of course there are full-on jQuery plug-ins, some of which even run tolerably off-the-shelf.

THAT is why MozFound pushes the paradigm of progressive enhancement: not because it makes life easier for developers (it doesn't, as a rule) but because it makes Web publishing approachable to a far greater user population than developer-kit-based toolboxes.

In conclusion: is reliance on the basic native stack the ONLY way? Of course not!

It is, however, the way that's easiest to learn and (usually) the hardest to f* up.

Yes, even CSS, as long as you care to walk before you run.

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