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I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Hipster-hate strikes me as just another thinly veiled form of bullying, and it's interesting to see how readily internet nerds - the people who are disproportionately to have been bullied in the past - engage in it. Look! He's different! Let's make assumptions about his motivations and get him! It's also interesting to see how many times Reddit (and other communities) fly into a rage-fest because of lack of context,…

Being bullied doesn't breed sensitivity--quite often the reverse.

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Hipster-hate strikes me as just another thinly veiled form of bullying, and it's interesting to see how readily internet nerds - the people who are disproportionately to have been bullied in the past - engage in it. Look! He's different! Let's make assumptions about his motivations and get him! It's also interesting to see how many times Reddit (and other communities) fly into a rage-fest because of lack of context,…

I personally really like hipsters. They made tattoos non-scary. Before them, it was all bikers and sailors... many of them want to hurt me.

I'm sort of joking and sort of very serious.

I think hipsters, with their funny tight pants, single-speed bikes, and amusing attention to facial hair, have had a positive influence on society. The world needs people to be overly fixated on the mundane, or else we get too productive.

I personally am not cool in any way, nor do I aspire to indicate coolness through my physical appearance. I've got a wife, a kid, and a mortgage. I just can't spare the cycles trying to look cool.

But, I'm happy the hipsters are out there.

Plus, some of them serve excellent coffee.

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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"Sadly, instead of wondering why someone of a different perspective could think that of him..." So it's his fault that people were nasty and hated on him? Way to go - blaming the victim much?

I literally wanted to end my comment by talking about "haters" and the people who talk about "haters" in a very nasty way, but since the guy I was criticizing didn't refer to "haters," I felt that was unfair and putting words in his mouth. To not rant: the fact that someone criticizes you is not a sign of a quality that they hold of being a criticizer , When people criticize you, they are criticizing you , and if you…

> The victim of being upset that people on twitter and reddit didn't like him? Cry me a river.

I suppose you think the notion of "cyberbullying" is nonsense, then? And their purported victims should just "man up"?

I don't even know why you brought up fox-hunting and singing. The guy was being hated on for nothing more than his appearance.

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Reddit is visited by tens of millions of people of virtually every demographic. Corralling them as "internet nerds" seems a bit like you're trying for some bullying yourself. In any case, talk about much ado about absolutely nothing. A bunch of people said silly things, largely under the assumption that it was no consequence (that no one was hurt, etc): In many ways the comments on there are performance art. It is th…

Reddit is visited by tens of millions of people of virtually every demographic. Corralling them as "internet nerds" seems a bit like you're trying for some bullying yourself. The post to which you're replying didn't even mention Reddit. Reddit is by no means the only place where a nerdy demographic (and I'll define 'nerdy demographic' as 18-25 that skew towards STEM education and exhibit above-average internet usage)…

> Being a jackass isn't somehow excusable just because you don't know who you're being a jackass to (in fact, some would argue that it makes it worse.)

This. "We didn't know we were hurting anybody" is no excuse for hurting somebody. Man up, accept the blame, apologize, and move on. It's not the end of the world if you hurt somebody's feelings, but you're a piece of shit if you knowingly hurt somebody's feelings, or they make it publicly known, and you DON'T apologize.

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He expected to be criticized for what he saw was the performace: writing stories. He did NOT expect to have his "Hey I'll type anything for you" sign completely hidden, and therefore the pictures about him to be taken completely out of context. In real life, you can see something like that, and then walk around until you see the sign and have better context, and be less dismissive or confused. When all you have is a…

Oh I see, you're saying that he was an artist who's art was MISUNDERSTOOD! Well, that changes everything: In other cases, people understand 100% what artists are trying to do. No performance artist in their right mind can be expected to take into account that others might misunderstand his/her performance.

Somehow we've reached a point in society where being spotted in public with a typewriter turns you into a subject of mockery and disdain.

Hell, the author would be better treated if he dressed up as a clown and made balloon animals.

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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No subset of negative reactions is proper.

Your parent used an uncommon meaning of a word, and you reinterpreted it with the most common meaning! How clever of you!

You used sarcasm! I bow down to your magnificent display of wit.

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Let me approach this problem logically. What does sincerity mean? Would you say a man wearing a $2000 dollar suit was being sincere? What if I told you the suit was custom made bespoke and it took eight months to make? Would that be sincere or pretentious? Why is wearing something about expressing a sentiment that you need to be aware of? Maybe the person's sentiment is for their sake?

While there are some clothing choices that could be sincere, what I meant is that I don't understand what those clothes sincerely are . I thought skinny jeans were a recurring fad, and the big glasses were fashionable or meant to get attention or something. For your other questions, I think someone who spent 2 grand on a suit just to be showy is pretentious. If they did it because they really like expensive clothes,…

I don't understand your definitions of sincerity, pretentious or vain. I attempted to, by asking you a sequence of questions. They only confuse me further. My only intuition is that you think _vain_, _sincere_ or _pretentious_ are absolute. I think they are relative. E.g. you spending time not working in a cotton field 20 hours of a day to feed your family might be seen as the vain games of the rich by a farmer in third world.

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Why on earth is this on the front page of hacker news. I understand that HN is not all about tech, and interesting articles of all kinds should percolate up. But why is this at the very top for so long. It's about Internet hate, and we all know that Internet hate is due to the anonymity that Internet provides, nothing more or less. This has little to do with hipsters or counter culture. SOME People on reddit don't ha…

Actually, I found it to be one of the best links that has come up in the last few days on HN. It, to me, is a critical look at what ways these amazing tools created by the tech community are used for.

For example, reading the comments about him before his reply show a case of the fundamental attribution error on most of the commentators parts, ie assuming he is a 'hipster' and 'stand out for standing-out's sake'. As soon as he revealed the financial reasons for his dress and actions a lot of the stereotyping/prejudicial comments were stopped as well. That to me is interesting and worthy of studying. Perhaps the use of a typewriter set off the tech community, it seems quite a few both here and in the original article declare it a novelty and inferior to more technical means.

To answer your question, sure anonymity enables the hate to flow out but why was it present in the first place? How are the tools we are building to give people such power being used and what can we do to make sure people such as himself have a way to be understood? At least the article brings such topics up :)

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