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Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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have you considered asking DOL (staffed by White Americans) and Congress (staffed by White Americans) why they have that requirement, instead of blaming foreigners ?

Why do you assume everyone who works for the government is white?

Even better, why do they think everyone in the government is working for the interests of Americans and not corporations?

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> foreign teachers who are qualified AND are happy to teach up there But are they? Or are they just willing and here for the money and foot in the immigration door? Sincere question, though I have negative views of the whole H1B thing in general (not a US national, though).

If you care, you certainly can find a lot of information about it nowadays. Of course, whether you want to believe it is another question. https://youtu.be/FSmtbSYE8pg

You thought this video proved what?

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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My sister was a schoolteacher in Alaska. They pay a premium, but it’s still not a life that most Americans are cut out for, including me. That means the schools have to choose between giving these kids subpar teachers who are happy to live up there, or miserable teachers who are only doing it for the money. Or, we can hire foreign teachers who are qualified AND are happy to teach up there.

> foreign teachers who are qualified AND are happy to teach up there But are they? Or are they just willing and here for the money and foot in the immigration door? Sincere question, though I have negative views of the whole H1B thing in general (not a US national, though).

At a general level, it is a simple fact that there are more qualified/happy candidates globally than there are just in the United States. For the second part, no, I assume that money/opportunity are WHY they’re happy to teach up there. If that’s the motivation that keeps qualified teachers from turning to alcoholism or suicide, that’s a good thing for the kids.

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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That is true but I think the salient observation here is that it's only realistic to pay so much for education. So either you can't have children in such a town, or you're forced to homeschool, or (I guess what's being suggested is) you import someone willing to work an undesirable job if it gets them into the country. I think there's an important difference between importing labor to undercut qualified americans in…

Do we even realize this is the very beginning of the worldwide demographic transition? American and Worldwide cities aren't replacing themselves, and they're not having children ... as a way to save. And this is getting worse. Meanwhile the whole world is going through a demographic transition. Which, allow me to translate, means in less than 25 years there will not be any society worldwide that has the people to all…

Watch some documentaries about Chinese borders (easy to find ones of peasants illegally entering Kashmir for instance) or even look at a map. There is absolutely no way to keep even broke peasants from leaving. China doesn't even know where many of their borders are, that's why a lot of them show up as dotted lines. China has about the most porous border for leaving as any place on earth but Russia or Brazil (entering illegally is a different issue -- if you want to go anywhere urban desirable you will be found out -- that they have good controls for). This compounded by the fact that many of China's neighboring countries have robust populations of undocumented / nationless people into which they can be absorbed rather than sticking out as a sore thumb wherever they end up.

Iran and Afghanistan are almost as laughable. When I was in Syria I met an Iranian guy with one eye that travelled through the Kurdish mountains into Iraq and then Syria. Iran doesn't even control the mountain passes out of the country, they're literally controlled by Kurdish rebels who have very little concept of immigration controls other than pay me a dollar.

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Well, truthfully I don't really care all that much about it any more than I do any other problems that people generally experience. It's even more tragic that someone has an H1B means other folks don't - aren't their lives even worse for not having the opportunity that someone else does? Can the H1B visa holder even compete with the person denied the H1B? The reason I wrote this comment is because the OP itself decid…

Yeah, sounds like your situation is insecure too. That really sucks.

That's not correct lol

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Who said anything about infinite? I don't see anything wrong with importing labor if it's of net benefit to our society. If there was genuinely no citizen that wanted the job for any reasonable price then what's the harm in bringing in an educated outsider who contributes positively? It improves several metrics simultaneously without harming anyone.

You could also say that India is below replacement fertility. Which, if Indian history is anything to go by, will mean India will outlaw emigration to protect ultra-rich Indians. China has already mostly made emigration illegal. The rest of the world will follow.

> China has already mostly made emigration illegal

Genuinely news to me. Do you have any sources?

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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For those not reading the linked article, it was not about tech (although valid discussions here). I had not expected this (this is about rural Alaska): > “In some rural districts, visa teachers make up 50% to nearly 80% of the teaching staff. School districts already invest $6,000 to $12,000 per teacher to recruit and sponsor educators through the H-1B visa process. Adding a $100,000 federal visa fee has made it fin…

Reminds me of the plot from North Exposure.

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Canada's Temporary Foreign Worker Program is a horrible program that has been flagrantly abused for years to the detriment of Canadians. There's record high youth unemployment yet every Tim Hortons is filled with Indians.

What's wrong with Indians? Why do so many people here want us to hate on Indians?

There’s nothing wrong with Indians. Indian immigrants I’ve worked with professionally have been great.

There’s something massively wrong with bringing over tons of cheap labour, who are themselves constantly exploited and abused due to their precarious arrangement, creating a situation where they have no reason to care about the society or culture they’re moving into, because it obviously doesn’t care about them.

They are lied to, cheated from, and stolen from, and are the victims of racism. In turn, a disproportionate number of them will lie, cheat, steel, and exercise racism, or casteism. That’s not specific to Indians, that’s just human nature. As a result, the trust level in society is collapsing.

The Indians are not the source of the problem here, the businesses and politicians who created this environment are. The Indians are another group of victims. They are sold false promises and set up for exploitation, and desperate people in an insecure position are not a good foundation for a healthy society.

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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Yes, there is supply and demand. However, that doesnt mean a government cant restrict supply.

It precisely and explicitly demands that the government restrict supply of foreign labor, as that increases the fair market value of American wage earners. It increases the opportunities for young Americans to trade their labor for a start in life, to support their families, and to make our nation stronger. Importing foreign labor makes it more difficult to justify hiring Americans, and undermines the nation's long t…

This supposes and outcome where domestic wages are increased and investment is made. It supposes that americans are willing and capable of doing the labor at a price point that americans will accept.

It is also possible we will simply not teach these children (or build infrastructure, grow labor intensive crop, ect).

Re: Federal judge blocks H1B visa $100K fee

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H1B is a terrible and maximally abused program in its current form. Adding a $100k fee (which I expect eventually to be found to be not-a-tax and therefore legal) is not a fix, it is merely a revenue stream. It needs a couple things: 1. Break current gamification of lottery winners. Probably by requiring a greater diversity in country-of-origin of H1B visas granted annually. Probably involves some kind of % or per co…

- Say that no more than 5% of a company, rounded up, can be H-1b. Ex If you have 1-20 employees, only 1 can be an h-1b. Adjust the % based on how well the policy works.

- give companies less power over h-1b holders. Make it last six months or a year after the date they get fired, so they are not so tied down. Don’t make it indentured servitude.

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